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  • jubaji
    started a topic Set ups

    Set ups

    How do you like to set up a double, single, throw, or anything else?


    Since set-ups are arguably THE most important part of offense, what works for you?


    Also, what questions about set-ups do any non-wrestlers have?

  • JadeDragon
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    Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
    Judo Gene Labell comes to mind. That's one dangerous old man!!
    He has to be tough to wear that pink gi.......LOL.

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  • jubaji
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    I really think that both give you both, just in different ways.

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  • Tom Yum
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    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
    It's a great combo. I've known a lot of folks who were great at one and pretty damn good at the other. Very complimentary.
    I can see how they are very complimentary. Wrestling gives you that raw speed and active control whereas judo is more about leverage and capitalizing on your opponents mistakes.

    Judo Gene Labell comes to mind. That's one dangerous old man!!

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  • jubaji
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    It's a great combo. I've known a lot of folks who were great at one and pretty damn good at the other. Very complimentary.

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  • Tom Yum
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    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
    You're doing great so far!
    Jubaji, what's your take on wrestling/judo combination?

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  • jubaji
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    You're doing great so far!

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  • Middleweight
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    So sad there are so few wrestling clubs, and SO many karate clubs. Not knocking Karate, but Wrestling is so almost unknown, and yet with some Judo in the off-season... A very tough combination to beat if ever faced with a roid raging road rager, etc

    Maybe this should be a new topic. Sowwy, new at this

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  • JadeDragon
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    I find that by pushing your opponent backwards when in a collar to elbow tie up works well for a single leg takedown. By pushing him backwards his natural reaction is going to push back. At first you fight him then you let him take a step forward and bam you shoot for a single leg on the leg he stepped forward with.

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  • OnegaishiMasu
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    Originally posted by bodhisattva View Post
    Two on One
    Duck Under
    Head Snap
    Slide By
    Shrug
    +1, the essentials

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  • Britt
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    The wifey got me the Randy Couture book for my birthday yesterday. should make for a good weekend read.

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  • jubaji
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    Of course as with any set up, you need to be aware that your oppenent may be expecting that and use it to lead YOU into his counter. If I take a big, exagerrated step knowing you will take that bait I may have an advantage in countering since I can anticipate your action.

    Sort of chess-like

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  • bodhisattva
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    wrestling set up - movement - move away from the leg you want to attack

    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
    What often goes overlooked in terms of set ups is simply movement itself. How you move around, toward, or away from your opponent and any of the various ways you make him move can have a huge impact on your ability to carry out your offense or counter.

    If you know you can make your opponent step in a given direction, even for a second, you can time when his weight will be committed in a certain direction, which will 'freeze' a leg if only for a fraction of a second and that is when you can get penetration. Faking shots and anticipating reactions can give you even more of an advantage (provided you are right about how he will react).

    A lot of folks talk about how 'fast' wrestlers are with leg shots and such, but you get a whole lot faster when your opponent isn't moving.
    A good example of this is to "circle away from the leg you are going to attack"

    This works well. Circle away from his right leg, and just before he sets it down as he steps it forward, throw his arms upwards and shoot in.

    We're training that one more tomorrow, as a matter of fact.

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  • jubaji
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    What often goes overlooked in terms of set ups is simply movement itself. How you move around, toward, or away from your opponent and any of the various ways you make him move can have a huge impact on your ability to carry out your offense or counter.

    If you know you can make your opponent step in a given direction, even for a second, you can time when his weight will be committed in a certain direction, which will 'freeze' a leg if only for a fraction of a second and that is when you can get penetration. Faking shots and anticipating reactions can give you even more of an advantage (provided you are right about how he will react).

    A lot of folks talk about how 'fast' wrestlers are with leg shots and such, but you get a whole lot faster when your opponent isn't moving.

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  • chillaplata
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    Just ordered it on Amazon -- thanks for the tip.

    Also ordered BJ Penn's book on MMA, a book on conditioning, and a new book on Fedor (coming out in September).

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