The Ultimate in Martial Arts

black crown · 11-02-2009, 02:10 PM

I like this one. watch his technics.

YouTube - Nice movement

Tee Sok · 11-02-2009, 02:22 PM

Nice display of drills and techniques, thanks for that.

fire cobra · 11-02-2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black crown

I like this one. watch his technics.

YouTube - ????????2

Thanks Black Crown,some parts looked close to some Filipino movements I have seen before.

William · 11-03-2009, 10:51 AM

Thank you! I need to watch that again.

William

black crown · 11-03-2009, 11:47 AM

I've found out more info on their style from here ..

http://www.sarakadee.com/feature/2003/05/arthamaat.htm

Tee Sok · 11-03-2009, 12:05 PM

Thank you for this link, I am curious about the Attamat style. My teacher did make me practice the vertical 8 figure witha live blade to show me and explain the simultaneous attack-defense, it's a simple and subtle concept but it's all about making it work, as usual.

The only time I actually heard about the Attamat was in the Buddhai Sawan Path dvd, it's mentioned among other systems.

black crown · 11-03-2009, 12:31 PM

Finally, I've got some footages about them, Arthamaat.

YouTube - Part 1

YouTube - Part 2

YouTube - Part 3

YouTube - Part 4

george stando · 11-03-2009, 01:19 PM

Also the tv show with the canadian woman filmed this. I remember because it was my first trip to thailand, the film crew were going to film somewhere else and vincent told them to film this style because he was training with them and they finally did. It was an interesting discussion because the film crew wanted to film the same old stuff and he was telling them about the various schools and branches and philosophies of the weapons from different regions and different countries. So they took his advice but he couldnt be in it because he left for india i think and had to unfortunately go home. It was a great time training though i have fond memories of that.

I think this is the series is:

Budovideos.com - Deadly Arts 2 DVD Set with Josette Normandeau

black crown · 11-03-2009, 01:35 PM

Thanks George,

I think i've watched that program on cable tv before. Probably 4-5 yrs ago.

Tee Sok · 11-03-2009, 01:36 PM

Thank you very mùch for that.
That's what I was talking about in another thread. They call it Daab Attamat, not Krabi Krabong, which can be interpreted in different ways.
I could see the difference between most KK, actually these are the first videos in which I can see some actual real sword usage, like in video 3 and at the beginning of video 4. Sometimes I learned Lanna sword, staff and spear in a small recreation of battlefields, a little bit like they show but more active and with more pressure.
there's not the endless hit block hit block and other things I see in KK as it's completely unreal.

black crown · 11-03-2009, 02:18 PM

In video 3 at 6:40 the right man made a hit exactly on left man's fingers through chest. I wonder he did not show any painful out of his eyes.

During the show they talked about their philosophy.

when someone hit, don't parry.
When someone parry, don't hit.
Hit when no parry.
parry when can't escape only.

He said it is they way they protect the sharpness of blade in the battle.

About their sword. Handle is 1/3 of the length to protect inside of arm. The next 1/3 is blade with thick metal for parry. The last 1/3 is sharp blade use to make wound.

Tee Sok · 11-03-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by george stando

Also the tv show with the canadian woman filmed this. I remember because it was my first trip to thailand, the film crew were going to film somewhere else and vincent told them to film this style because he was training with them and they finally did. It was an interesting discussion because the film crew wanted to film the same old stuff and he was telling them about the various schools and branches and philosophies of the weapons from different regions and different countries. So they took his advice but he couldnt be in it because he left for india i think and had to unfortunately go home. It was a great time training though i have fond memories of that.

I think this is the series is:

Budovideos.com - Deadly Arts 2 DVD Set with Josette Normandeau

That's just great, this documentation of the different schools, weapons and the philosophies behind them is invaluable. You hear so little about them it's a rare thing to actually see them on video. It's like a link to the past.

Tee Sok · 11-03-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black crown

In video 3 at 6:40 the right man made a hit exactly on left man's fingers through chest. I wonder he did not show any painful out of his eyes.

During the show they talked about their philosophy.

when someone hit, don't parry.
When someone parry, don't hit.
Hit when no parry.
parry when can't escape only.

He said it is they way they protect the sharpness of blade in the battle.

About their sword. Handle is 1/3 of the length to protect inside of arm. The next 1/3 is blade with thick metal for parry. The last 1/3 is sharp blade use to make wound.

Cool, thanks for the translation! That's a battlefield philosophy. There's no time, soldiers coming from all directions for the kill. Swift and deadly.
I could be wrong but I think the Thai and Burmese sword handles and their usage are really unique, I never heard of that elsewhere.

Yes, that guy didn't move a muscle!

fire cobra · 11-03-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black crown

Finally, I've got some footages about them, Arthamaat.

YouTube - Part 1

YouTube - Part 2

YouTube - Part 3

YouTube - Part 3

Excellent Black Crown thanks for the links,made my night watching those clips.

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black crown Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Double swords, you might not have seen before... I like this one. watch his technics. YouTube - Nice movement

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William Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 642 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you! I need to watch that again. William __________________ Mongrel Combative Arts East Greenwich, Rhode Island www.mongrelcombativearts.com All you need is love........and a sharp blade.....a hardwood flat stick......Oh, oh, oh and a Paraordinance lda 14.45 loaded with 230 grain hydra shocks,ranger SXT's or golden sabres

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black crown Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Finally, I've got some footages about them, Arthamaat. YouTube - Part 1 YouTube - Part 2 YouTube - Part 3 YouTube - Part 4
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george stando Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bangkok and beyond Posts: 703 Groans: 48 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Also the tv show with the canadian woman filmed this. I remember because it was my first trip to thailand, the film crew were going to film somewhere else and vincent told them to film this style because he was training with them and they finally did. It was an interesting discussion because the film crew wanted to film the same old stuff and he was telling them about the various schools and branches and philosophies of the weapons from different regions and different countries. So they took his advice but he couldnt be in it because he left for india i think and had to unfortunately go home. It was a great time training though i have fond memories of that. I think this is the series is: Budovideos.com - Deadly Arts 2 DVD Set with Josette Normandeau
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Tee Sok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 479 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice display of drills and techniques, thanks for that.

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black crown Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've found out more info on their style from here .. http://www.sarakadee.com/feature/2003/05/arthamaat.htm

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Tee Sok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 479 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for this link, I am curious about the Attamat style. My teacher did make me practice the vertical 8 figure witha live blade to show me and explain the simultaneous attack-defense, it's a simple and subtle concept but it's all about making it work, as usual. The only time I actually heard about the Attamat was in the Buddhai Sawan Path dvd, it's mentioned among other systems.

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black crown Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks George, I think i've watched that program on cable tv before. Probably 4-5 yrs ago.

11-03-2009, 01:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tee Sok Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 479 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you very mùch for that. That's what I was talking about in another thread. They call it Daab Attamat, not Krabi Krabong, which can be interpreted in different ways. I could see the difference between most KK, actually these are the first videos in which I can see some actual real sword usage, like in video 3 and at the beginning of video 4. Sometimes I learned Lanna sword, staff and spear in a small recreation of battlefields, a little bit like they show but more active and with more pressure. there's not the endless hit block hit block and other things I see in KK as it's completely unreal.

11-03-2009, 02:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
black crown Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 28 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	In video 3 at 6:40 the right man made a hit exactly on left man's fingers through chest. I wonder he did not show any painful out of his eyes. During the show they talked about their philosophy. when someone hit, don't parry. When someone parry, don't hit. Hit when no parry. parry when can't escape only. He said it is they way they protect the sharpness of blade in the battle. About their sword. Handle is 1/3 of the length to protect inside of arm. The next 1/3 is blade with thick metal for parry. The last 1/3 is sharp blade use to make wound.

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