Wing Chun style straight-blast obsolete?

[macaco]

I like too watch photos/clips of Burton's blast

[sherwinc]

The boxing blast is a modification of the traditional Wing Chung straight blast. Essentially, what you do is this:

From a left lead, throw a right cross. Now, take a step forward with your right foot so that you are in a right lead and, as your right foot touches the ground, throw a left cross. Now take a step forward with your left foot to put you in a left lead again and, as your left foot touches the ground, throw a right cross. Keep doing this, running forward and hitting the opponent repeatedly. So, rather than push-shuffling forward in the same lead and throwing either vertical punches or 1-2's, you are running forward and hitting the opponent with your rear arm with each step.

I consider the boxer's blast to be more effective than the Wing Chun blast for three reasons: (1) the punches are more powerful and (2) it feels more naural to perform (3) you can run forward much faster and overwhealm your opponent (who is backpedaling so fast, it is difficult for him to mount a counter-attack).

Take care and train hard,
Jim

Wow, in NgoChoKun it is called GREEN DRAGON SPOT (to the head) in a 3 times execution.......

DiSipKun's Chiee Punch after Kim is also converted to Green Dragon Spot to the head instead of a series of Chiee Punches......

[futsaowingchun]

Since there has been little activity on the forum as of late, I thought I'd throw out a question:

Does anyone still use the traditional Wing Chun straight blast (the one with the vertical punches)? I practiced this blast for years, but ever since I learned Burton's "boxer's blast" almost two years ago, I have forsaken the Wing Chun blast. The Burton blast has so much more mustard on the punches, whereas the Wing Chun blast has barely enough power to crack an egg (in my opinion).

Opinions and arguments appreciated,

Jim

Then you did not learn correctly how to use the so called Wing chun straight blast. It's very powerful if done correctly.

[futsaowingchun]

Jim I agree!

I did the traditional blast for years due to the fact I trained wing chun. But being wide in the shoulders and big in the chest, the whole elbows on centerline thing wing chun has, was hard for me.

But, I had a friend that trained with Jessie Glover, who basically does STRONG chi sao, entries and the blast, and my friend chris, was VERY good with it! So one summer, we really spent the time on it.

But for me, the boxing blast (or Burton Blast LOL!) is much better for the reasons you listed, I also like to do it with palms, you don't even have to hit the face, the palm blast to the chest, or into his raised arms is very effective!

I also notice that slapping and shoving gets a strong emotional response as well, it is unnerving to some people.

LONG LIVE THE BURTON BLAST!

He did the blast... He did the Burton Blast! The Burton Blast... He laid it on him in a flash! The Burton Blast... His face he did smash... The Burton Blast! He did the Burton Blast...(sung to Monster mash)

-Rick

This is a big misunderstanding in WC the elbow does not have to be on the centerline. The elbows are keep down and close to the body but not on the centerline.

[blanker]

Gerry:

The boxing blast is a modification of the traditional Wing Chung straight blast. Essentially, what you do is this:

From a left lead, throw a right cross. Now, take a step forward with your right foot so that you are in a right lead and, as your right foot touches the ground, throw a left cross. Now take a step forward with your left foot to put you in a left lead again and, as your left foot touches the ground, throw a right cross. Keep doing this, running forward and hitting the opponent repeatedly. So, rather than push-shuffling forward in the same lead and throwing either vertical punches or 1-2's, you are running forward and hitting the opponent with your rear arm with each step.

I consider the boxer's blast to be more effective than the Wing Chun blast for three reasons: (1) the punches are more powerful and (2) it feels more naural to perform (3) you can run forward much faster and overwhealm your opponent (who is backpedaling so fast, it is difficult for him to mount a counter-attack).

Take care and train hard,
Jim

thay have been doing that in karate for hundreds of years

[Burton]

Futsao, Yes, with the wc straight blast, the punches come from centerline, not the elbows. It can be powerful, but definitely not as powerful as punches coming with a full body turn. That said, the WC straight blast can be very effective. Defense is an issue, though.

Blanker, it is true that Karate has a similar move, but the punches are not thrown from next to the head with the chin down. This can also prove to be dangerous from a defensive point of view.

Rapid punching works, whether you do the WC method, Karate method, or Boxing Blast. When looking at all the advantages and disadvantages (evidenced through hard sparring with skilled opponents) I prefer the boxing blast due to the safety of the structure and the power of the punches.

[futsaowingchun]

Futsao, Yes, with the wc straight blast, the punches come from centerline, not the elbows. It can be powerful, but definitely not as powerful as punches coming with a full body turn. That said, the WC straight blast can be very effective. Defense is an issue, though.

Blanker, it is true that Karate has a similar move, but the punches are not thrown from next to the head with the chin down. This can also prove to be dangerous from a defensive point of view.

Rapid punching works, whether you do the WC method, Karate method, or Boxing Blast. When looking at all the advantages and disadvantages (evidenced through hard sparring with skilled opponents) I prefer the boxing blast due to the safety of the structure and the power of the punches.

The basic wing chun straight blast comes from the centerline,but Some come from the side of the body alone the floating ribs which can be found in th eChum Kiu form. The fist shoots out from the side to the center not starting from the center out like the the sun punch found in th eSLT form.

[peppi]

This is a big misunderstanding in WC the elbow does not have to be on the centerline. The elbows are keep down and close to the body but not on the centerline.

True.
But some people do not understand it