question about body head combo

[gabbah]

I have a question about the body-head combo (the one where you first hit his ribcage with a hook and then follow up with the same hand with a hook to the head):
Can you make both shots hit with full power or do you need to choose one of them to hit hard (if you want to keep the combo fast)?

meaning I would either:
Throw a fast but weak hook to the body to lower his guard, and then the hook to the head with full power,

or:
throw full power to the body, then light hook to the head, and then follow up with some other punch with the other hand.

Any comments would be appreciated. Basically I'm looking for the "textbook" way to do this

[Gard]

Some people can throw both with allot of power. However the time that you take to recuperate with influence the force. Taking too long can cause the opponent to move or cover the target. I would say that the other hand has to at least throw a quick fake in between punches to prevent that from happening.

[EmptyneSs]

speed is most important. in the ring and with gloves yeah u may need more power, but if your looking at it at a pratival self defense point of view then speed is what u need. when u are hitting people with bare nuckles u dont need that much power to do some damage. u just wanna be very fast and relaxed. speed kills.

u can do em anyway u want i guess, whatever works for for u.

[gabbah]

Thanks Mike, and yes I meant it purely as a boxing question. If I was forced to hit someone in the head barehanded, I would probably want to use elbows instead. DAMN those elbows are sharp!

Yeah I like to move away to my right after I have thrown my (last) left hook, leaving my shoulder up for protection of my chin, and using my right arm to deflect or cover the head from punches in case he really tries to hit me after. But most of the time they can't because I'm already at their side.

But do people crumple that fast after body shots? In my experience it takes at least half a second before you actually feel the pain of a bodyshot?
That would leave enough time to follow up with the hook even if the body shot was a knock down punch, wouldn't it? What's your experience with this?

About the variation, the thought had occured to me, and I have been training that combo a little... but now I will train it a lot more.

[TerryV]

Its pretty hard to do, Jerry Coney had one of the best triple hooks in the game. I forget who he was fighting but he was some top 10 guy and Jerry throw a triple hook like that and they say each hit broke something, he would throw low boby, mid body and then head. I use to have a fast hook off the jab, but could never get power off it, It was just enough to score.

[TerryV]

Be careful and set it up well though, or you risk stepping into his counter hook. The good news is, it keeps you totally clear of his counter right!

Had that happen at 1984 Louisiana Golden Gloves, and let me tell ya, his hook had a LOT more on it than mine. I stuck to just jabs the rest of the fight and won on points.