I have been boxing for most of my life, in and out of gyms since before junior high school. I had no idea that I was only on the surface level of the art. I bought Advanced Boxing for combat at 52Blocks.tv and it really woke me up to how much Boxing is an effective tool for combat and since then ive been hooked. I just signed up to an mma school to learn some more and test my skills, wish me luck.
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I saw the dvd and overhype and as someone who grew up with a dad who was a boxing coach and the number of fights i had inside and out of the gym, this is an ok at best look at "a" use for boxing. I wouldnt give it any high rating. Seems like the post below is more of an advertisement from a 1 post member than someone who understands boxing and how to use it realistically.
if you are going to use the word "combat" and stuff like that you are going to have use your hands in a way to protect them with slaps and certain punches that streetfighters like to use, quick and sneaky, in and out. This stuff on the dvd is not combat or how to use boxing for combat.
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I saw two 59 dvds and they were good. It's boxing for the street,
there's an unorthodox way of hitting that is aimed at finishing the fight quickly, but the base is undoubtely boxing.
I have to agree with you, even 59 is turning into a commercial thing (as the post above seems to show) and most guys seemed to have jumped on the bandwagon, but in my opinion some stuff is good.
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To call something "Combat Boxing" is like calling something "Water Swimming". In my experience, the one art that requires the least adaptation to be functional on the street is Western Boxing.
Most violent confrontations start in conversation range, where hands are your optimum choice. Unlike so many martial arts that are honed on the "attacker does X so you do Y" Boxing looks for any opening to KO and will move first. Therefore the pre-emptive strike, a short cross or hook to the jawline for the knockout, is the most economical and effective way to end an altercation. For a Boxer such a shot is not theory or dojo trained, but comes from thousands of hours in the ring, its just second nature.
When I worked the doors briefly in my youth, I thought all the experienced head guys would be Karate or Kung Fu experts. On the whole, they were amateur or professional boxers, earning extra money on the side. They took what they did in the gym, added a little of the art of deception and psychology, and it worked just fine.
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the sucker punch or wide looping hook was a key strategy on the street and the street guys used it with a lot of deception. Theres an art to boxing thats missing from alot of these dvds that is very deep and precise and progressive and adaptable. I thought the dvd in question sort of was saying this is our street stuff but it lacked the depth of understanding and delivery any solid box coach could give you. Also why the mma gloves, it seems he is trying to market and sell it to that community while masking it as combat. Thats just my view on it.
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Originally posted by Michael Wright View PostTo call something "Combat Boxing" is like calling something "Water Swimming". In my experience, the one art that requires the least adaptation to be functional on the street is Western Boxing.
Most violent confrontations start in conversation range, where hands are your optimum choice. Unlike so many martial arts that are honed on the "attacker does X so you do Y" Boxing looks for any opening to KO and will move first. Therefore the pre-emptive strike, a short cross or hook to the jawline for the knockout, is the most economical and effective way to end an altercation. For a Boxer such a shot is not theory or dojo trained, but comes from thousands of hours in the ring, its just second nature.
When I worked the doors briefly in my youth, I thought all the experienced head guys would be Karate or Kung Fu experts. On the whole, they were amateur or professional boxers, earning extra money on the side. They took what they did in the gym, added a little of the art of deception and psychology, and it worked just fine.
this post the was the closest idea of a street, short and really violent.....
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