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**Great Sage** · 07-28-2003, 10:38 AM

Re: Boxing Workout

Originally posted by BadgerFu57
I currently do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Hapkido, and Tae Kwon Do. I don't have money for a coach, but I want to start doing some basic boxing. I have access to bags, and I have a jump-rope, wrist-wraps, and I am going out to get some boxing/wrestling shoes and 12 oz gloves. I mostly want to take boxing for the conditioning element, as well as to complement my grappling (I wrestled in junior high, do BJJ now, and Hapkido).

I was wondering if anyone could give tips or advice. Currently, Mon/Wed/Fri I am doing boxing, and Tues/Thurs I am adding kick techniques.

Your training schedule should reflect how much time you have to develop the maximum results with the minimum time (in my opinion). If you can train everyday, that's great! Where do you intend to fit TKD, Hapkido and BJJ in all this?

Originally posted by BadgerFu57
I have noticed that my hip pivot on my cross gets lax after 2 rounds on the heavy bag. Should I do more shadow sparring or do I just need to get better conditioned?

Do this:

Warm-up/Stretches
Mirror Training
Shadow Box 2-3 rounds of 2-3 minutes. Gradually build yourself up.
Heavy Bag 2-3 rounds of 2-3 minutes. Again, build yourself up.
Speed bag or double-end bag
Lots and lots of abdominal work

Originally posted by BadgerFu57
I currently feel limited on combo's since Tae Kwon Do doesn't teach many hand techniques (I hate TKD but it comes pretty much free with Hapkido, that's why I take it).

There are plenty of combos that have been posted on this site.

Originally posted by BadgerFu57
I have been working, Jab-Cross-Body Hook. Jab-Cross-BodyJab-BodyCross. Jab-offensive roundkick, Jab-Defensive Roundkick.

Does anyone have any tips for training with the heavy bag or combos? Any expert advice on how to perfect the Bob-and-Weave?

On the heavy bag make sure to stand at a correct distance. Extend your arm towards the bag. Your impact should go between 3-5" (I'm not quite sure anymore) into the bag. Basically, throw combinations as you would with an opponent. Move around at times utilizing footwork.

Practice the Bob-weave with a rope tied at both ends. Make sure it's not too high or low — just enough to dip your shoulders and legs slightly. I use the double-end bag for slipping and coordination. Keep your eye on the bag as it moves back and forth. Slip accordingly and then maybe start throwing combinations.

Sorry, I'm not much help... There are others on this forum with much more boxing experience and knowledge. Hope this at least gives you an idea.

**Tom Yum** · 07-28-2003, 11:02 AM

Re: Boxing Workout

Originally posted by BadgerFu57
I was wondering if anyone could give tips or advice. Currently, Mon/Wed/Fri I am doing boxing, and Tues/Thurs I am adding kick techniques.

I have noticed that my hip pivot on my cross gets lax after 2 rounds on the heavy bag. Should I do more shadow sparring or do I just need to get better conditioned?

I have been working, Jab-Cross-Body Hook. Jab-Cross-BodyJab-BodyCross. Jab-offensive roundkick, Jab-Defensive Roundkick.

Does anyone have any tips for training with the heavy bag or combos? Any expert advice on how to perfect the Bob-and-Weave?

About your right cross, focus on good technique a few thousand times without rushing to throw a powerful punch. Work on it in front of a mirror.

In front of the mirror, make sure your right leg bends at the knee, and rotates downward and to your left. Practice dipping your right knee down and to the left to where it is allmost touching the floor. Make sure your hips are rotating into the dip. Why? Because it helps you sit into your right cross, thus putting more body weight into the punch. When you start throwing the punch after working on this technique, you won't dip as deep but the technique will be there. If you get a coach he'll teach you how to step and move with the right cross.

The r cross is about exploding into your target with your body weight behind it. The punch comes from the ground first and then your arm. Also make sure that your fist rotates over right before impact - like pouring a pitcher of water. That little wrist rotation can be the difference between pounding your opponent or pounding your opponent while also cutting his face.

The retraction of the right cross is very light, smooth and quick. It does NOT jerk back from a locked position as taught in TKD.

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Bob and weave is good for boxing and maybe street fighting, but not so good for kickboxing or MMA because of knees and low kicks. The motion comes from bending at the knees and hips, NOT from bending at the back & waist.

The bob provides the ducking motion (legs and hips, NOT waist & lower back) and the weave is a slide step which brings one foot across the floor and the next one to equal your fighting stance. Your lead leg stays in lead leg position before, during and after the move even during a change in angle - this is why you need a coach, because there are an inifinte number of details about boxing that an experienced coach can show you.

If you practice the bob & weave and your lower back is sore the next day, you were bending too much at the waist and lower back.

**BadgerFu57** · 07-28-2003, 11:53 AM

Sage, I am in summer right now, the blessed time when high school youths have too much free time. That's how I find time. I train MA in the evening and boxing in the morning.
P.S. I hate abdominal work. I think I am just going to have to get a video with a very pretty instructor lady to motivate me. It is the only way. lol. They make nude tai chi and nude yoga, now if I can just find "6 Minute Abs: In the Buff" I am set.

Tom,
I never use a TKD stance much anyway. My instructor always gets pissed because I use a more Muay Thai/Boxing stance in sparring. Supposedly it's going to get my ribs broken. I could see how a MT stance in point-sparring would suck, but then again, I don't really care for point-sparring.

How can I find a quality instructor in my area? There is one boxing gym, and I can get 2 weeks free there starting August 1st, so I am going to try that. But I have had friends who have trained there, and to politely say it, the owner is "eccentric."

Where are the Mickey's and the meat lockers? (referring to rocky) *sigh*

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