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can anyone help? when I punch with my right arm it's fine, but when I do a centre line punch with my left arm it hurts my elbow and doesn't feel right. It just feels completely different. I've heard that if you dont close your fist tight enough when you punch, you can damage your elbow but I think I'm closing it tight enough.
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Are you straightening your arm too much? That will wreck the joint over time. And too much punching against thin air is also harmful, as well as ineffective training. -
categorically correctOriginally posted by Thai Bri
Are you straightening your arm too much? That will wreck the joint over time. And too much punching against thin air is also harmful, as well as ineffective training.Comment
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Yeah I'm fully straightening my arm when I punch. So I'm doing it wrong right?, so I'm not supposed to straighten the arm fully but hold back a little?Originally posted by Thai Bri
Are you straightening your arm too much? That will wreck the joint over time. And too much punching against thin air is also harmful, as well as ineffective training.
currentlly I am punching in thin air for about 1 hour a day. Plus I'm fully straightening the arm. Thats probably why my elbow joint is wrecked.
Thanks, do you have any more ideas on how I should train the centre line punch?Comment
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You can wreck your elbow joint throwing punches at full speed into thin air for long periods of time. It might help to punch a heavy bag, which offers some resistance.
I think its the same thing with throwing kicks as well. I remember throwing a side kick at a guy holding a kick shield many moons ago. I completely missed the pad and it bloody hurt my knee! Luckily, it wasn't serious, but it was a lesson in how your joints can hyperextend!Comment
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dreamer - why not get a wall bag? They're popular with WC guys and take up much less room than, well, just about anything.Comment
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Originally posted by Thai Bri
dreamer - why not get a wall bag? They're popular with WC guys and take up much less room than, well, just about anything.
Yeah I might just do thatComment
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dreamer, it's sounds to me that you are either right handed and/or aren't comfortable with your left arm and/or you have a back problem. You can check you if you have a back issue by leaning against a wall and slowly throw your punchs to the center line. If you don't notice a difference then you probably moving your body out of line when you punch with your left.
don't straighten your arms.
just my 2 cents.Comment
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Originally posted by RAB
dreamer, it's sounds to me that you are either right handed and/or aren't comfortable with your left arm and/or you have a back problem. You can check you if you have a back issue by leaning against a wall and slowly throw your punchs to the center line. If you don't notice a difference then you probably moving your body out of line when you punch with your left.
don't straighten your arms.
just my 2 cents.
Yeah I'm right handed and I dont feel that comfortable with my left arm. I'll try the back thing by leaning against the wall though. I think when I punch with my left arm my shoulder comes forward more and I turn slightly towards the right.
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dreamer your arm should never staighten more than any of the blocks/strikes when punching the only block that does is fut sao as per the form or tan sao you shouldnt be punching beyond that rang in fact the circle punch is realy just changing guard hands with fist formed ...front hand block rear hand strike.....bill gee is just all the blockss used as strikes...... meant to enhance defence against graplers and enable full functioning chi sao as you dont give them a straight arm to work with and when they touch one arm you turn it into some block strike from the form/wooden dummy to disposition them and strike with other arm ...its like grappling only we call is chi sao and strike insted of grapple and lockComment
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Mean't to enhance defence against grapplers my arse.
Wing Chun, like the rest of the striking arts, had no clue just how formidable grappling was prior to UFC1. They didn't take it into acount one iota, but now prattle on about "anti grappling" and shit like this.
More bull from the gip.Comment
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I have to agree with Bri...groundfighters were not considered in WingChun. There are aspects in WC that can be applied to accomodate grappling. And if there is chin na, yes there grappling. But Chisao is concerned with mainly trapping, not grappling. Of course you can lock and take some to the ground from chi sao, but trpping is the emphasisComment
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ok firstly i didnt mention groudfighting just grappling wich i believe can occur when standing...
with grapling you fight for better position and control via actual contact.as you do in wing chun...as oppossed to grapling however in chi sao you seek to control with a flat hand as when you actualy grasp the limb of someone that grasp can be used against you..as per judo.akido. a twist of position and you know have to other person in the comprimising position
im sorry you havnt actualy mma trained with wc an attempted grappling thai ..ive tried with the other styles i could and it is effective though granted its not really expressed in the training and it may have to do with the other styles i have trained in
yes wc is stuffed if it goes to groud and the wc teachers who tell you it wont happen should be shot especialy when they dont show you how to aviod it or how it wont happen
but yes you can use chi sao against grappling when standing its kind fun if you have a good wc school near you ask to train in this with an instructor or senior student
and thai seriously just because you can beat someone who trains a particular style or even a lot of someones dosnt mean there is anything wrong with the style (excluding mcdojo or the jet black systems)
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Don't imply I have a closed mind. I have explored Wing Chun, spending a year of my life doing so. And before you say "a year isn't a lot", think about this.
Isn't a whole year enough to allow you to thoroughly explore a system? If a style was any good, training in it for a year should make you good enough to use it effectively. All this "it takes 30 years to master" bull shit really means that the art is bollocks.
I was certainly a better fighter 12 months into Thai Boxing training, and even better when 12 months into ground fighting.
I have a very OPEN mind about martial arts. But not so open that my brains fall out. I do not swallow the theories espoused by zealot like followers. I test them out.
Wing Chun prattled on about being the ultimate style back in the 80's. It has been tested, and failed the test. Unless you'd like to point to some evidence of it actually being used effectively in combat?Comment
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Wing Chun + double leg takedown = splat goes the WC practitionerComment
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