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  • Originally posted by tjwingchun View Post
    Why would I want to grapple anyway? Rolling on the floor getting hot and sweaty with half naked men, some in lycra shorts and covered in baby oil is not my idea of fun.

    Oh great, another stupid closet case...

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    • Originally posted by jubaji View Post
      Oh great, another stupid closet case...
      Lighten up and smile occasionally.

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      • Please bash the person, not the art guys....

        Ow my ears... my beloved wing chun... slipping away....

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        • Originally posted by Red Rum View Post
          Please bash the person, not the art guys........
          Ok, you're a ******* moron.

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          • Originally posted by Red Rum View Post
            Exactly!! Why would you want to be stuck in an art that rips you off and doesn't teach you anything. Or worse, makes you believe that you are awesome!!!


            *ahem*...........................................



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            • Originally posted by tjwingchun View Post
              I was on about your martial arts not your job Thai Bri lol

              ROFL!

              This last few posts > the whole rest of this thread.

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              • Originally posted by gregimotis View Post
                ROFL!

                This last few posts > the whole rest of this thread.
                Been doing Wing Chun for 34 years and teaching it professionally for over 24, the whole debate about the various ways of spelling Wing Chun is pointless, I have said on many occasions that in MY view Wing Chun is simply the application of body mechanics applied to violent confrontations, it is the merits of the individual instructor that varies depending on their personal experience, ability and how many brain cells between their ears.

                Since I started coming into forums a few years ago I have been amazed at the hatred of Wing Chun, I can understand the bitterness of Thai Bri as he had contact with immature instructors and I admnit when I started in 1983 my classes were not that indepth, but like anything as we grow we develop and so I only defend what I teach now, but make no apologies for going through the learning curve that any teacher goes through.

                Now to the whole point of this reply, if you cannot laugh at yourself and your art then you should give up before you turn into a bitter and wrinkled old prune, sorry Thai Bri not getting at you again, lol.

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                • As it has been mentioned before, Thai Bri has based his wing chun experience on three teachers who taught the art too traditionally for him.

                  There are varying versions of wing chun out there from school to school

                  Some want to train very traditionally which involves less fighting and more about structure.

                  A lot of other federations (Kamon, James Sinclair, Alan Orr, for example) concentrate more on the practicalites of wing chun. If you use wing chun right and train against resisting opponents (that Jubajii and Thai Bri say we don't do), then it is devastating.

                  I have been to various schools and I always give them a chance. If a school doesn't train fighting then so be it. It isn't for me, but I respect the school's training methods, as long as it doesn't claim to be self defence or a fighting martial art

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                  • As it has been mentioned before, Thai Bri has based his wing chun experience on three teachers who taught the art too traditionally for him.

                    There are varying versions of wing chun out there from school to school

                    Some want to train very traditionally which involves less fighting and more about structure.

                    A lot of other federations (Kamon, James Sinclair, Alan Orr, for example) concentrate more on the practicalites of wing chun. If you use wing chun right and train against resisting opponents (that Jubajii and Thai Bri say we don't do), then it is devastating.

                    I have been to various schools and I always give them a chance. If a school doesn't train fighting then so be it. It isn't for me, but I respect the school's training methods, as long as it doesn't claim to be self defence or a fighting martial art

                    As for humour, I think humour has a limit. People have a right to be offended if someone insults the thing they love. Just as if someone had insulted a friend or lover........

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                    • Originally posted by Red Rum View Post
                      If you use wing chun right and train against resisting opponents then it is devastating.
                      Against other WC students...

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                      • Originally posted by jubaji View Post
                        Against other WC students...
                        Not at all. I sparred with my mate last night who is a blue belt in Gracie Barra.

                        And decimated him.

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                        • Yeah, I believe you...


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                          • Red Rum - just how many times do I have to remind you that the "Wing Chun2 in the Kamon videos is Kick Boxing?

                            Durrrrr.

                            Let TJ take a look at the site and see all the clips. Then he can tell us which ones are Wing Chun, and which ones are not.

                            I don't even have a problem with Kamon doing this. But to see you keep referring to this MMA type hotch potch as Wing Chun is ridiculous.

                            While your at it, as hom how much sense it makes to punch bare walls with your bare hands as hard as you can.

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                            • Originally posted by Thai Bri View Post

                              Let TJ take a look at the site and see all the clips. Then he can tell us which ones are Wing Chun, and which ones are not.
                              Which site and clips are these?

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                              • Originally posted by Red Rum View Post
                                Not at all. I sparred (chi sao) with my mate last night who is a blue belt in Gracie Barra.
                                Of course you did. Take it to the mat and see who'd win.

                                Better yet...put a knife in each one of your hands...and that way both of your uni-dimensional asses lose.

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