Wing Chun - an overview of its training methods and effectiveness.

[jubaji]

Trapping, never heard of in my WT school.

Are you sure you are enrolled in a WT school?

[Hot Sauce]

How can the fight end if you do not go to the ground without a ko?

I'm talking about self-defence. The fight ends when you can get out of there without the attacker wanting to follow you or can't.

There are many things that can happen. I feel down a hill and had to use dirty kenpo strikes to the grown from the ground while grappling to win. I had the disadvantage of fighting up the hill (sand pit fight). You may trip over somthing or somone. You may lose balance or footing humans are not perfect. You will not get a ko on every opponent. You really need to train for all aspects of fighting rather than only stand up. If you knock the guy on the ground from a punch you wanna keep going don't ya? Learn how to mount and pound them with elbows or what ever you preference is. To be honest many of my fights ended on the ground except for the kos. I was nice and walked away. Even if you ko somone does not mean they won't get up and attack again. Good luck with pure stand up on the street. If you believe that then you never faught. There are many x-wrestlers out there too. You never know what you will face.

I agree with you, but as I said we do train groundfighting, it's one of the five fighting distances we are training. But we don't train grappling, we train against it, anti-grappling or whatever they are calling it. I for one wouldn't like to, for example, put a triangle choke or armbar bar on the attacker. What can I do from thoose positions? Choke him until he faints or die? Break his arm? Wait for the police to arrive if there are others "spectators" who might have called? Watch when the attackers possible friends kick me? Wait until the attacker take out a possible hidden weapon? Wait until he claps on the ground so you will release him? I would rather get up if I can, if not, attack him as fast as possible with everything I have, elbows - knees, and then get out of there when the first oppurtunity arrives.

[Hot Sauce]

Are you sure you are enrolled in a WT school?

Yes, thanks for asking.

[jubaji]

Yes, thanks for asking.

But you don't know about trapping. Curious.

[jubaji]

Recipe for an ass-whoopin':

But we don't train grappling, we train against it, anti-grappling or whatever they are calling it.

[Hot Sauce]

But you don't know about trapping. Curious.

mm okay I've read the article again and it says that trapping isn't used in WT. I have never heard any of the 5+ instructors that are currently teaching at the WT club where I train mentioned trapping. Maybe I haven't got to that program where trapping is a part of the drill? When I think of trapping, Jeet Kune Do comes to my mind.

Do you train WT?

Recipe for an ass-whoopin

Howcome?

[jubaji]

Do you train WT?

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No. I've known a bunch of people who train wt, but I've never taken the plunge. Maybe someday.

[jubaji]

Howcome?

'Cause you won't learn to effectively handle grapplin' without actually grapplin'. Anyone who says different is fooling you, himself, or both.

[Hot Sauce]

'Cause you won't learn to effectively handle grapplin' without actually grapplin'. Anyone who says different is fooling you, himself, or both.

True, but it doesn't mean that the training against grappling without using grappling doesn't work.

[jubaji]

True, but it doesn't mean that the training against grappling without using grappling doesn't work.

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That's exactly what it means!

[Hot Sauce]

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That's exactly what it means!

A punch to the head doesn't work against grapplers then?
You are saying that if I don't train kicks I can't defend against them. I diagree, although it's better to train it too but not neccesary. Real world and training is not the same thing. Also if a BJJ fighter doesn't train WC then he can't defend against WC stuff. Sounds totally unlogical.

[jubaji]

There are two ways to help you see the point here. Someone with more patience than I could continue trying to explain things to you, or you could go out and get your ass kicked and experience a revelation. I suggest you seek the former before you run into the latter.

[Hot Sauce]

There are two ways to help you see the point here. Someone with more patience than I could continue trying to explain things to you, or you could go out and get your ass kicked and experience a revelation. I suggest you seek the former before you run into the latter.

Someone please do.

You haven't tried to explain anything to me, only one liners with nothing to back it up. But I'll thank for writing the replies.

[jubaji]

Someone please do.

You haven't tried to explain anything to me, only one liners with nothing to back it up. But I'll thank for writing the replies.

Good luck with option #2!

[Hot Sauce]

Good luck with option #2!

I rest my case.