Wing Chun - an overview of its training methods and effectiveness.

[Tiger Claw]

If you know the ground game then you can get out of the game.

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guy incognito

If you know the ground game then you can get out of the game.

Excelent point Tiger claw.Thai im by no means defending wing chun i found it to deficient to no only in ground techniques but also for lack of preemptive technique.Bear in mind I only learnt wing chun For six months because my instructor was an idiot who got of on hurting people.Learning ground fighting so you can gaet back on your feet as soon as posible is an absolute must.

[Tiger Claw]

wing chun would do well with jj or bjj since they both conserve energy with techniques. I think that would make a great blend. Anti-grappling is knowing grappling and getting out of it imo. JJ is better imo since you do not turn your back to your opponent. In wrestling they do this which makes no sense to me. Both are great that is just a preference of mine. Many say this and I agree with them that ground fighting is another world than stand up. Tkd lacks the same prob as wing chun no ground fighting but you add in the ground fighting they become effective.

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THAI BRI.Thai i have a question for you.Is thai boxing your chosen martial art if so what are your thoughts about the fact that the style has more of an emphasis on ring fighting than other aspects(ie self defence).I think mui thai is an excellent martial art,what do you think of it being turned into a martial sport.I ask these questions because i dont know and would like you input.

[Tom Yum]

IMO muay thai as a sport is still hand over fist better than other martial arts as a form of self-defense. Power development, conditioning and toughness are fundamental self-defense attributes; technique matters but without these attributes backing up your technique, its not fighting and its not real. Muay thai has its weaknesses too - that being an upright stance that is vulnerable to takedowns and no weapons training. The good thing is that muay thai is frequently cross trained with bjj and fillipino weapon styles. With cross training, mt fighters practice sprawl/takedown drills, plumbing for overunder, clinch control and grappling.

Wing chun looks interesting to me, because you aren't wearing gloves and you focus on fighting on the inside, which is not a range most people are comfortable with - especially with the traditional arts (minus judo and jj).

muay thai has alot of great infighting techniques as well - knees thrusting, rising and round, rising elbows, roundhouse elbows, axe elbows and straight elbows....not to mention clinch work to throw your opponent off balance while knocking him silly with one of the above techniques. These techniques are trained against pad holders and are drilled repetitively and practiced frequently in shadow sparring, so you can learn to deliver them with max power and speed while putting them together.

I'd like to know more about WC infighting. I've heard that at higher levels, its more or less about controlling your opponents balance. Any thoughts about this?

[Thai Bri]

THAI BRI.Thai i have a question for you.Is thai boxing your chosen martial art if so what are your thoughts about the fact that the style has more of an emphasis on ring fighting than other aspects(ie self defence).I think mui thai is an excellent martial art,what do you think of it being turned into a martial sport.I ask these questions because i dont know and would like you input.

It isn't. And does have inherent weaknesses.

But its participants train realistically insofar as they hit full power, have excellent fitness, and don't go down when the going gets tough. It can form a nucleus for great self protection fighting, along with additions from other arts.

I have trained it myself, but only call myself "Thai" because it rhymes with "Bri". As well as "High", "Why", "Fly" and "Die".

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Thanx guys.Im in no way insulting the art.Cant tell you much of wind chun im affraid.Im not suggesting that mui thai is not valid for self defense also their is wepon work its grabi grabong and its the focus on ring work that is the reason its not taught.

[Tiger Claw]

Muay thai is no way ineffective on the street. Problem is they are just stand up just like tkd and win chun.

[guy incognito]

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What should i look out for in a muay thai school.Im really interested to take a look.

[Hot Sauce]

You do understand how ridiculus that statement is considering HE has trainined in WC and YOU have not trained in BJJ

It was supposed to be a question. He is the one who claims that WT doesn't work.

WT is not the same as the WC he has trained.

[jubaji]

WT is not the same as the WC he has trained.

Is the difference the great "anti-grappling" skills you are taught?

[Hot Sauce]

Is the difference the great "anti-grappling" skills you are taught?

Among other things. I don't know how great the "anti-grappling" is. It seems to work very well against non-experienced grappler wannabes and WT students who tries to act like grapplers. However against thoose who train a lot of grappling it will probably have no chance when the grappler has taken you down to the ground.

[jubaji]

Among other things. I don't know how great the "anti-grappling" is. It seems to work very well against non-experienced grappler wannabes and WT students who tries to act like grapplers. However against thoose who train a lot of grappling it will probably have no chance when the grappler has taken you down to the ground.

I was hoping for a less reasonable answer!

[Troll Virus]

Among other things. I don't know how great the "anti-grappling" is. It seems to work very well against non-experienced grappler wannabes and WT students who tries to act like grapplers. However against thoose who train a lot of grappling it will probably have no chance when the grappler has taken you down to the ground.

From a SD point of view, the Anti Grappling stuffs worth a look. In particular for Anti Rape. Young ladies taking a short course in stripped down Wing Chun supplemented by the Anti grappling stuff are going to be better equipped to handle themselves than if they singularly practiced BJJ, MT ...........you name it.

[jubaji]

From a SD point of view, the Anti Grappling stuffs worth a look. In particular for Anti Rape. Young ladies taking a short course in stripped down Wing Chun supplemented by the Anti grappling stuff are going to be better equipped to handle themselves than if they singularly practiced BJJ, MT ...........you name it.

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