Wing Chun - an overview of its training methods and effectiveness.

[Troll Virus]

Well I suggest anyone seeing you spouting drivel on the CMA section here in future, just paste up the link to this thread, making it plain you 'chicken out' whenever someone contests your pov.

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/showthread.php?p=236150#post236150

Actually, you're the only member I remember being here when I first joined, and I had a pretty fair amount of respect for you.

I think a lot less now!

No big loss eh.

[Thai Bri]

Hey, theres a donkey calling me a chicken. We could go for the whole farm.

Who else wants to be on the farm? If so, what animal are you and why?

[Arnmstrrce]

Wing Chun is real. You are not.

[Arnmstrrce]

[QUOTE=Arnmstrrce;236249]Wing Chun is real. You are not.[/QUOI

I run right through you.

[Troll Virus]

WC sucks! MT is the best.

More relevant question.

Which would you rather be, a Chicken or a Donkey?

[Sly Dog]

Arnmstrrce

According to your profile, you don't really have anything to say here. Go back to MySpace and talk with the little girls.

[jubaji]

Hey, theres a donkey calling me a chicken. We could go for the whole farm.

Who else wants to be on the farm? If so, what animal are you and why?

Obviously, I am a pig.

[Thai Bri]

Nice one! That's the spirit!

C'Mon guys! Anyone else wanting to join Old MacDonald?

[tjwingchun]

Mines a Big Mac, fries and a chocolate shake!! lol

Spirit? Southern Comfort, but for memory loss 85% black Absinthe hic.

Busy working on a reply from what I have read so far in this epic thread but running out of space on my hard drive only got 150G

[marcus_p]

I trained WC for approximately 1 year. I put my heart and soul into it and rarely missed a day. Even when there was no lesson I spent my time refining what I had been taught.

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OK, I know I've been a bit unkind in other threads. But so what? This is my view for all to see. And all this "you only spent a year at it" is really weak. I am an experienced student of fighting arts, and an experienced fighter. One year should be plenty time to learn to apply a GOOD fighting art. Especially the extent of training I undertook. But I couldn't apply it.

From WC I took some of the parrying movements and the bil jee (which I have now rejected in favour of other ways to throw the fingers). Not alot to show for all that work.

You've described my first few years of WC training. I wish I had only invested a year with that "instructor".

/Marcus

[SmallThought]

Disappointed once again.....

It's so typical to see yet another ill informed discussion on a style of which most people seem to have very little understanding. At first i wanted to join this discussion, but on further reading i have decided it is a a complete WOMBAT (waste of mega bites and time).

[Thai Bri]

So you decided to contribute.

Doh!

[SmallThought]

Actually, i don't consider my last post a contribution; more a statement of exasperation!

You are entitled to your opinion that Wing Chun is ineffectual, but you really have not got the basic understanding to give an over view of an entire system based on a years training at an obviously inferior school run by an instructor with no understanding of how the principles apply or how to comunicate them to a student. Actually, i'm being charitable to you in saying that. It may well be that the school and instructor were just fine and that it was yourself that were lacking in understanding and talant as a student; being completely devoid of the necessary attitude required to learn effectively.

So, now that i have contributed to your pointless WOMBAT of a thread i refuse to be drawn any further on the issue.

Good luck with your training.
Peace out.

[jubaji]

You are entitled to your opinion that Wing Chun is ineffectual

Whew! Thank goodness that's all cleared up!

[Red Rum]

Wing chun like any art has many flaws.

Boxing has no kicks/knees but is still incredibly good.

BJJ has no strikes but is still incredibly good.

Karate has no close range stuff but is still incredibly good.

Wing chun is just the same. What you do with it is up to you.
A lot of schools are too stuck in tradition and cannot see true application of wing chun. Just like some boxing styles get destroyed when they go up against other boxers.

I went with one wing chun guy and made him cry when he realised that he had major flaws in his training (seriously he cried!!)

Federations like Alan Orr, Kamon, James Sinclair, (and I have been told there are others in America), train people to hit hard and to use their sensitivity for real situations. I know weedy people who can't fight at all using wing chun and I know rock hard scary geezers who can use their wing chun to devastating effect