Why is Kung Fu not considered to be truly effective in actual combat?

[Ironpalm]

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[jubaji]

Not all forms from Taiji are slow. -

OMG!

Do you think you should be sharing this top-secret kung-fu lore in public?

[Ironpalm]

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[Yinboxer]

Don't compare today with ancient China they fought to death back then, today you brake someone’s hand and you get sued and arrested even in self-defense.

I see... you expect your LAWYER to talk the crazed lunatic out of trying to kill you, because you don't want to have to go to jail for hurting him. "Please mister, I dont want to have to hurt you now!"

Guess what, genius. There is still a need for lethal self defense, because there are still people in the world who may try to kill you. Laws may have changed to deprive people of the right to defend themselves, but that doesn't mean the harsh realities of the world have changed. A wise man once said "It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

[47MartialMan]

I thought kung fu is a martial art. Except the term is a misnomer not actually translating as "martial art". I have a problem with accepting anything or anyone with the name "Shaolin" attached

[jubaji]

There are also fighting sets in which the defender uses the attacks hidden in the form while the attacker randomly attacks with hand attacks.

Wow. More top-secrets from the great master!

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Jujabi, do you have anything interesting to report,instead of only making these kind of remarks?

80-90% of your posts are dissing remarks, you never really bring anything to a thread

Somehow you can't stand anything positive being said about TMA, do you?

[jubaji]

Somehow you can't stand anything positive being said about TMA, do you?

That is not the case at all. Quite the contrary.

[BaguaBoxer]

not sparring?

I keep hearing people talk about Kung-Fu schools not sparring sh*it I better go tell my Teacher we have to stop we are not following the other school. I have been taking Kung-Fu for 5 years with the same teacher and after the 2nd year when I knew how to control my body i.e. how hard I kick and punch or throw a person then we began sparring because the fact is if you have no control when you sparr then you have no control period. Also when sparring your not "trying" to hurt the other person just see how the form is applied. No one form works the same on 2 people say I'm attacked by a 6'2" 190lbs guy named superdude then next week I'm attacked by a 450lbs 8' guy the week after the form or technique I used on superdude won't have the same effect as on bigman there it will still work but the body type causes diffrent reaction in diffrent shapped people.

[47MartialMan]

In my CMA, there WAS sparring, there was contusions, there was sanguinary, there were other injuries, all resulting from hard sparring without "contact rules"

[Ironpalm]

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[47MartialMan]

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What???246810

[hornet]

LOL

Why is that?

Because so many stupid people go to train a bit Kung-fu to take revenge on some badass. Then when they feel they start to feel getting the hang of it 1week - 1 month? they think they can kick ass.

So they seek out badass and he kicks their ass royaly.

And then you have all the dorks making fanzy moves in the air. Spars with predictable people of their own style for years and then gets into a fight.
What happens? They get hospitalized!

I wonder why........

[sanjiyan99]

Kung fu was originally invented to be a form of exercise for the monks who did nothing but mediate all the day long. Long periods of inactivity took a toll on their bodies so a fellow monk from another place having seen the effects of inactivity and thermodynamics on the monks, taught them sixteen different exercises they could perform easily and on a daily basis to keep in shape. Kung fu is a martial art in that it is a form of fighting without much substance, akin to shooting blanks from a gun.

Muay thai, on the other hand, was invented for the purpose of putting down people in wartime activity -- tried and tested on the battlefield in wars between Siam and neighboring nations such as Burma.

With all due respect to the Chinese martial arts, it is my own personal opinion that Chinese martial arts have their place in performance, in the circus, and in the movies. However, they are just not practical for real life combat.

[AlexJitsu]

Actually, the monks learned Indian yoga to increase their endurance during meditation, not Kung Fu. They needed Kung Fu to defend themselves from bandits, thieves, and those types of groups. Many people believe that martial arts originated from Greek pankration, which then spread throughout Asia via Alexander the Great. The Chinese then learned this and improved on it.

I have no idea where you, sanjiyan99, got your information, but you are surely mistaken. Also, to label all Chinese martial arts (or as you would say, "Kung Fu") "impractical", just shows how naive you are. It's like saying shotokan and Kyokushin Karate are the same thing.