The reality of Kungfu

[m.artist]

of all i know, once a KungFu Master, KungFu Instructor - once beaten in a fight even just once.......

they will surrender their art and they will no longer practice anymore since they lost their dignity, will, etc.......

Want a good example???????

Chua Giok Beng of Ngo Cho Kun KungFu defeated his unbeatable KungFu opponents........ Chua Giok Beng's opponents are now his respectable closed students.........

Question:
Is your instructor had any experience beaten in a fair no rules fight/matches?
Where is he now?????
Is he continue learning his martial art??????

you know, even the BattleFlags and MotherFlags of the Non-commercialized kungfu schools fall down the ground - their kungfu school will automatically closed before they fix their battle/mother flags to stand........

Note:
You said Tyson is great, inspite of many winning fights of him, how many fights also that he lost????????
In KungFu - you defeated the match only once and you can no longer join anymore, why?????? cause even in yourself - you are very ashamed for what happens to you......

in kungfu:
example, for 10years of practicing kungfu, beaten in a fight just once is a shamefull thing.....

another example:
some of the Japanese especially ninja's do cut their head if they beaten in the fight just once......

CONVINCED???????

so.....what happens when i real kung fu guy fights a real kung fu guy then?

[sqai]

i'll buy you a free beer ok?

Is that like a Zen riddle? You'll buy a free beer? Ok I will ponder this koan, perhaps there is a lesson in it.

[sherwinc]

so.....what happens when i real kung fu guy fights a real kung fu guy then?

1. Same KungFu Style of both Opponents Category:
the most biggest, strongest, flexible, more techniques mastered/learned, tall, who hit first, etc........ WILL SURELY WIN THE FIGHT........

2. KungFu Style versus Other KungFu Style:
the most biggest, strongest, flexible, more techniques mastered/learned, tall, who hit first, etc........ WILL SURELY WIN THE FIGHT........

Note:
if their ratio of fight is 10:10 for example, there you could see for a 100 fist thrown to opponent, 90 is intercept, block, redirect, yielding, nutralized, while the remaining 10 are landed to opponents body...... same also with the opponent......

you could see forearm blocking, intercepting, neutralizing, etc.... is EMPHASIZED MOST..........

forearm hitting against opponent's forearm is mostly happens....

what you see in their set patterns is what the way they fight mostly......

NOte:
but i dont really believe in Kihon Kata No.1 of Okinawan Shorin-Ryu Karate and Poomse No.1 of Tae Kwon Do......... why???????????
cause i dont see that kata is applied in a sparring, cause their sparring is only full of jumping jacks, hopping, skipping, NO TRACES OF POMSEE OR KIHON KATA..............

[darrianation]

[QUOTE=sherwinc]

1. Same KungFu Style of both Opponents Category:
the most biggest, strongest, flexible, more techniques mastered/learned, tall, who hit first, etc........ WILL SURELY WIN THE FIGHT........

2. KungFu Style versus Other KungFu Style:
the most biggest, strongest, flexible, more techniques mastered/learned, tall, who hit first, etc........ WILL SURELY WIN THE FIGHT........

If you think that knowing more techniques makes you a superior fighter I have a bridge to sell you. This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. This is dumb as post logic! You keep coming up with dumber and dumber things all the time!

[Mark-Masters]

Situation.

Right.... A Question...?

Mike Tyson, Once The Heavy Weight Champion Of The World And Yip Chun, Supposed Master Of Wing Chun Kung Fu.

Mike Tyson In His First Seconds Of The Fight Throws A Hook To Yip Chun's Head, Yip Chun Throws Out A Tan Sau, To Block Or Deflect, Now Saying Yip Chun Is In His 70's Maybe 80's I'm Not Sure, I'd Like To See Him Stop Tyson.

Firstly, I Think Yip Chun's Arm Would Break From The Raw Power Of Tyson, And Secondly I Could Imagine His Skull Being Broken From The Hook Hitting His Head, And Finally, Crying Like A Sissy After Mike Bites His Ears Off.

Anyone Disagree?

Mark-Masters.

[chimpgimp]

Sherwinc no one system has all the answers.Not Kung fu , not mma, not karate, etc. Most martial arts evolved a particular way due to history, i.e. Silat has a lot of low stanes due to the terrain in indonesia. High kicking etc is not practicle on a muddy surface. If one art was intrinsically superior it would by now be the dominat art , there is no dominant art so guess what , no one art is superior.

Get with the program, learn whatever is on offer and works for you. Forget jack of all trades master of none when it comes to fighting thats bollocks. Sure make kung fu your dominate art if you like but see what else is onoffer , you never know you might even learn something.

Try some reality training i.e. Get used to aggression, if you have n't dealt with it in reality it can make you freeze.

Have you ever even sparred with people from different systems and pressure tested your art ? Hmm let me guess , it's too deadly. Too deadly my arse !

I'm not knocking you because your kung fu, I am a wing chun practioner amongst other things, but I realise that it has its limitations.

Wise up

[_Peter_]

I would tend to agree with chimgimp here, do the style that you find best suits your body type and individual abilities as no one single art can possibly offer the solution for people ranging from 4'11 to well over 7'. Personally, I have found that Tong Long kung fu mixed with western boxing and Muay Thai works very well for me, however, I can appreciate that not a lot of the population are 6'2, 154lb 16 year olds so everyone should find a style that suits them.

[yentao]

Bashing has always been effective to me against most strikes i heat them in joints and muscle. I always like to bash someone with my bridgehand especially at the neck.

[Uncle Corny]

sherwinc. sherwinc. sherwinc. tsk tsk tsk.

[m.artist]

If you think that knowing more techniques makes you a superior fighter I have a bridge to sell you. This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. This is dumb as post logic! You keep coming up with dumber and dumber things all the time!

that's correct
there was one thing that he was right on though
he said the man who is stronger,faster, in better shape will win
well if a man who is faster,stronger, and in better shape and does karate, and is fighting a real kung fu, the karate man will win
you can't just look at that for some of the time, and not other times..that's being biast

[darrianation]

that's correct
there was one thing that he was right on though
he said the man who is stronger,faster, in better shape will win
well if a man who is faster,stronger, and in better shape and does karate, and is fighting a real kung fu, the karate man will win
you can't just look at that for some of the time, and not other times..that's being biast

Very good point! So what do you have to say to that sherwinc?

[Tom Yum]

Very good point! So what do you have to say to that sherwinc?

Sherwinc heads over to the bar, grabs a domestic Pillipino beer, ripps the cap off with his teeth and chuggs the bear within 3 seconds...and says

"Only real kung-fu man can do that!"

[sherwinc]

that's correct
there was one thing that he was right on though
he said the man who is stronger,faster, in better shape will win
well if a man who is faster,stronger, and in better shape and does karate, and is fighting a real kung fu, the karate man will win
you can't just look at that for some of the time, and not other times..that's being biast

True!!!!!

why??????

cause i challenged one of my KungFu classmate, he has a background of Shorin-Ryu Karate before...... but he is more than twice as big as me although i am taller than him about 1 inch.......

the rules????

ok, i told him that he will not use is AngKa KungFu instead..... he will use only Shorin-Ryu Karate against my ChiDianBun KungFu......

want to know the result?????

ok, i am defeated.....

why?????

cause i cant deflect his heavy powerful kickings, (as heavy as the Earth Element)

its a Karate versus kungfu and i am the looser......

[darrianation]

True!!!!!

why??????

cause i challenged one of my KungFu classmate, he has a background of Shorin-Ryu Karate before...... but he is more than twice as big as me although i am taller than him about 1 inch.......

the rules????

ok, i told him that he will not use is AngKa KungFu instead..... he will use only Shorin-Ryu Karate against my ChiDianBun KungFu......

want to know the result?????

ok, i am defeated.....

why?????

cause i cant deflect his heavy powerful kickings, (as heavy as the Earth Element)

its a Karate versus kungfu and i am the looser......

I hate to say it...We told you so! This is something I have always matained...No matter what she tells you, Size does matter!

[Tom Yum]

the unspoken truth

I hate to say it...We told you so! This is something I have always matained...No matter what she tells you, size does matter!

...staying power and intensity.

nuff said.