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Someone want to explain this one to me? I read trapping was a major part of Wing Chun and JKD uses it but i have no idea what it is.......Correct me if im wrong by the way
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Another article about trapping: http://impactacademy.com/articles/sh...ied_trap_handsOriginally posted by boxinghurts
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Trapping is next to impossible to make-work consistently during a real encounter. Even for advanced practitioners it is a low percentage technique. So, don’t believe the hype or the lies they will tell you in class. They will come up with some anecdotal situation where it worked, or tell some myth about someone who they never met used it to defeat a army of angry mobsters in some dark alley late one night.
They will rely on that trapping works well in training, mainly because the drills are designed to make them work, or allows an atmosphere in which is optimal for them to work. So an over exaggerated believe in the effectiveness of the technique is instilled in the student and perpetuated on and on.
The truth of the matter is in reality they do not work all that well in the real world. Oh sure they can work against a grab, a push (where the arm is not retracted immediately), or a retard but not against a quick sudden jab or some MoFo’ swinging wildly determined as well as capable of taking your head off.
Trapping to me gets a low score as a technique. It just doesn’t work for all that many people all that often in a real world environment. Learn to go for the eyes and throat with extreme aggression; this will serve you far better in a real situation than wasting your time on trapping.Comment
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correct. Like I've said in other threads, it is nearly impossible to trap a boxer's punches. Trapping is overrated.Comment
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Good to know........now i know its not worth my time, tyComment
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Traping isn't a major part of Wing Chun, just one little part of the style.... WC is about striking not traping.I read trapping was a major part of Wing Chun and JKD uses it but i have no idea what it is.Comment
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Every stand up art is a striking art. If Wing Chun doesn't focus on trapping, then why are they doing so much chi sao?Comment
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For too many peoples who don't know the art, wing chun equates trapping... they think the goal of wc is to pin somebody's arms in order to strike them afterwards.
As I already said to trapp somebody is a question of opportunity, not something you deliberately seek...
Chi Sau is just an exercise that developps skills usefull for combat: sticking ability, sensitivity, contact reflexes, good structure, emmotional control, makes you more confortable in the close range, increase your speed, is also good for relaxation and developps trapping skills....
Here is an article on chi sau:
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The theory of Wing Chun is to enter, trap and strike, and then terminate (with a bil gee to the throat, neck crank, or elbow to the throat. This can only be applied if the opponents hands are temporarily trapped. This is also why Wing Chun focuses on chi sao, to develop trapping. Chin Na in Wing Chun is in complete opposition to it's methodology...it's not looking to joint lock or arm break...it's trying to use speed and a flurry of attacks on entry to setup a trap and strike, to setup a termination move.
My ten years of Wing Chun make me very comfortable with stating this.Comment
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There isn't a fixed theory of fighting in Wing Chun . Wing chun is a principle based art, every fighter is different and will fight differently. Every situation also requires different approaches.....If you ever met Yip Ching and Yip Chun you will see they practice quite differently.The theory of Wing Chun is to enter, trap and strike, and then terminate (with a bil gee to the throat, neck crank, or elbow to the throat.
Traping is the last thing I keep in mind, what I want is to break my opponents structure, stick and strike continuously until he breaks down....I also find the bridging concept quite interesting, if I decide to graple this will bring me right into the good range.
There are arm breaks, throws, head locks and chokes in Wing Chun..... Seldom taugh and used but they exist. There are many interpretations of the forms for instance if you look closely at chum kiu there are movements who could be arm breaks or injure the elbow. Many of the defensive movements if applied properly can damage limbs....Chin Na in Wing Chun is in complete opposition to it's methodology...it's not looking to joint lock or arm break.Comment
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good post..... maybe i learn again something...... why????Originally posted by Mr. Gordo
cause what i did when i use WingChun is to ENTER, CHISAO until my turn to STRIKE and STRIKE FOREVER until the opponent is down..... and i forgot to TRAP my sparring partners attacking arms.....
WingChun Trapping Techniques is what i missed.......Comment
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Yes, you straight blast in.....but then the opponent puts his hands up to block...you have an obstruction....obviously you then temporarily TRAP to clear the obstruction to either continue with your blast or terminate.Traping is the last thing I keep in mind, what I want is to break my opponents structure, stick and strike continuously until he breaks down....
Yes, there are breaks and throws....but why not keep to the simplicity of wing chun and complete your straight blast or termination move? Fits more with the theory of economy of motion than to go for a "head lock."There are arm breaks, throws, head locks and chokes in Wing Chun..... Seldom taugh and used but they exist. There are many interpretations of the forms for instance if you look closely at chum kiu there are movements who could be arm breaks or injure the elbow. Many of the defensive movements if applied properly can damage limbs....
Well, you mentioned "CHISAO until my turn to STRIKE..." That's the trapping of the obstructing bridge.cause what i did when i use WingChun is to ENTER, CHISAO until my turn to STRIKE and STRIKE FOREVER until the opponent is down..... and i forgot to TRAP my sparring partners attacking arms.....Comment
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I can trap or simply CLEAR..... clearing is far easier than trapping.you have an obstruction....obviously you then temporarily TRAP to clear the obstruction to either continue with your blast or terminate.
Once my opponent has been hit or commit mistakes and I the situation allows it I can choose to trap, but I ussually prefer to clear, occupy the line and strike...
It depends on the situation.... maybe you don't want to hurt your opponent, simply neutralize him or you choose to use him as a shield in case of multiple attackers. Throwing has also it's use if you get attacked by several opponents.Yes, there are breaks and throws....but why not keep to the simplicity of wing chun and complete your straight blast or termination move? Fits more with the theory of economy of motion than to go for a "head lock."Comment
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Well of course you'd clear, because one can't trap a good fighter's arms.
I would rather neck crank than throw to move on to another opponent in a multiple attacker scenario.....last thing I want is the guy to get back up after the throw. You can still use a limp body to shield for a short time.
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