Has anyone fought decent chinese MA practitioners?

[jubaji]

I have no interest in wasting time on someone who's just looking to make some smart assed remark.

you have internet access, google it if you are really interested.

I already have the info, but you don't seem to. Why not save yourself some time and instead of typing in posts from now on, just post the google url.

[medic06]

why not save yourself time and not post questions that you already have the answer to.

[zchaos]

why is it that only me here in defend.net presenting that less is better than more????????

ok, since i have none yet experience in a real death street fight, explain me further that less technique learned are better than many, i need detailed explaination.......

alright! count me in, less is better. Why? because if you have too many techniques in your bag, it'll take you a long time to react, because you have to think which one of your 3000 or so techniques is best to use? now if you have a few techniques you dont have to think about which one to use. i say pick at least a few techniques and drill it, first one being your main, second is your back up, and third being your excape technique. now the downside of having a few techniques is that you'll be predictable if you dont finish the fight right away, especially if you're against a good fighter. that's why we learn principles, because techniques are drawn from principles. that's why boxers are good fighters because they dont have to think, they have four techniques, and they use it constantly......anyways just my opinion

[shaolin-warrior]

alright! count me in, less is better. Why? because if you have too many techniques in your bag, it'll take you a long time to react, because you have to think which one of your 3000 or so techniques is best to use? now if you have a few techniques you dont have to think about which one to use. i say pick at least a few techniques and drill it, first one being your main, second is your back up, and third being your excape technique. now the downside of having a few techniques is that you'll be predictable if you dont finish the fight right away, especially if you're against a good fighter. that's why we learn principles, because techniques are drawn from principles. that's why boxers are good fighters because they dont have to think, they have four techniques, and they use it constantly......anyways just my opinion

you gotta be kidding
If you have to many techniques it will not take to much time to react. If you have to think, you've not done your homework. A technique that you know is different than one that you own. Your techniques should be reflex actions like catching a ball. you have to be able to adapt to any situation and one or two techniqes wont fit the bill. If it did, we would all be black belts in two knuckle fu or roundhouse kwan do.

[Tameo]

Techniques are just tools. They do not determine the skill level of a practitioner. Feeling your opponent's position,balance and momentum or "energy" is the most important aspect of wing chun. Too many schools focus on learning techniques, but not being able to apply it. Yea if learn 1000 techniques you will have a large toolbox but its up to the practitoner to use the tools. As for boxing, i think its great, but the way they try to block hooks or jabs are way too primitive. Also There is no way you can move your whole body out of the way faster then you can move your arm. But i think boxing offence is great and if it was applied to wing chun it would improve a practitioner's level quit a bit..

[joedoe]

I don't see why it is bad to know a lot of techniques, but train a few to a high level as your 'stock in trade' so to speak. That way you have your best techniques that you can use well and can rely on, and you also have access to other techniques that may be handy in a particular situation.

[Tameo]

Its good to learn alot of techniques, but it isnt important to destinguish between the techniques. 1 block can be done in an infinite number of ways. The angle,the amount of pressure, and the part of arm you use... i think the more techniques you learn the bigger your toolbox, but you can only learn how to use those tools if you understand principles and how to apply them.

[fanman.]

Okay, back to the original point of this thread: yes, I have fought a decent Chinese martial artist.
I had an arch enemy. How did that come to be? Well, when I was a youngin who used to get beaten up at school, i decided it would be good to learn kung fu. But when i tried out a class, after the class, this 18 year-old dude beat the crap out of me, sayin dont come back, this class aint for babies (i was 13 and everyone else in the class was at least 18, although the sifu said it was okay for me to join) and he said, "they call me Black Panther. I'm the youngest but one of the strongest in my club. You wanna join, you're gonna have to get past me first" . I cried and cried and cried. I was so upset and i never started classes there. But i did find a karate dojo, where they gladly accepted me. Over the years, as I became stronger, I swore revenge on "Black Panther." So, when I reached the age of 18, I went back to that kung fu school. And i said, "which one of you is Black Panther?" and the sifu told me that B.P had gone for some austere training living in the wilderness and spending much of his time meditating and practising Kung Fu in a Buddhist temple. I asked where this temple was, and i was given the details.
So i drived to this temple. When i entered, i found it was dark and seemed quite large, and was empty, save for a a dark unmoving solitary figure at the the other end of the temple. He was sitting completely still in what appeared to be a meditation posture, and was wearing an orange monk's robe and was facing the wall (away from me). So I slowly walked closer and closer towards him, my heart beaten fast and the adrenalin rushing through my body. When i reached about ten feet behind him, i stopped, and said with a penetrating, strong and slightly sarcastic voice: "This class aint for babies!". Without making a move, he says "You wanna join, you're gonna have to get past me first." A deafening silence followed for about ten seconds, until he, still in the seated meditation posture, said: "What, are you too scared to fight me or something?"
So i burst into action, running at him and launching a flying side kick. But before i know it, i've crashed into the wall with my head right at the feet of my now standing enemy. He kicks the back of my head, sending it crashing into the wall. Despite my pain, my resolve to get vengeance only grew stronger i got up, and with a penetrating kiai, launched a spear hand (finger strike) attack right into his solar plexus. He doubled over in what musta been intense pain, and i waited for him to admit defeat. But instead, he threw a jumpin front kick to my face. I leaned backwards and drove my feet towards his knees as i fell controlled to the ground. Normally, this would break his knees, but in this case, he managed to step back just in time.
From there, it was furious and equal fighting from both sides, both unable to get through each others defences. We somehow fought our way up the staircase to the top of the temple, where they have the big bell. He went round the other side of it, so i couldn't get at him. I swung the bell at him, but he dodged it, and i ran around to him as it came swingin back to me. I lunged at him and he stepped back. It was too late that i realised that the bell was coming straight back for me, and it knocked me hard against the edge (railing thingy?). He stopped the bell from swinging and then quickly came up to me. He grabbed my throat with an iron grip and then preceded to raise his other hand, ready for the kill. But then i saw this guy dressed in a black kung fu outfit come running up. He said, it's okay, i'll handle it from here. The monk bowed to him and went away promptly. The guy in black then said: "Since you were defeated by my student, you are not permitted to join my school. I trust that he informed you of that rule before you began to fight. But if you train hard and come back later, you may be strong enough to join."
Confused, i say: "Who the hell are you? What the hell are you talkin about". He say: "They call me Black Panther. And who might you be?"
I say: "This class aint for babies!"
He say: "Man that was you?! F#ck, man, I'm so sorry!!! I was young and uncultivated in the Way. I've felt so bad about that. Let me buy you a beer or somethin!"
So we became best friends.
I guess the point of all this was that I HAVE fought a decent Chinese MAist (the monk dude).

[Tameo]

what movie is that from?

[jubaji]

So we became best friends.
I guess the point of all this was that I HAVE fought a decent Chinese MAist (the monk dude).

What feedback have you gotten that makes you think anyone wants to see more of your lame fiction kid?


STFU

[fanman.]

In answer to my good ol' pal jubaji :

I myself have never fought any CMA practitioners and would like to know other's experience with them. Tell me your stories of old/memorable fights with practitioners of chinese martial arts. OBEY!

[jubaji]

In answer to my good ol' pal jubaji :

It was not a call to submit poorly written works of fiction, you moron.

[ussdsajin]

I've fought a lot of fighters from cma and one thing you will learn is that it isn't the style or where the style comes from it is the spirit of the fighter. cma usually has really good principles of fighting but a lot of them are still not being adapted to todays situation

[Jabba]

I trained various MA but I was not satisfied with my effectivness even though I was really fast.Then I heard of a wing chun school and decided to check it out.I was shocked-the instructor quickly demonstrated that he could have killed me in 2 seconds if he had wanted to.His speed and power were amazing. And he is not even close to being a wing chun master yet.Sonn I realized that someone who is proficien in wc (5-6 years) can take ot guys twice their size within seconds.

[kuk sool won]

awww thats sweet