Looking for a German VT Clip, or the entire movie.

[Thai Bri]

Master of Almightiness.

What a load of dog shit.

[Tee Sok]

Nice to know that WC/WT/VT/whatever combo of 2 letters will eventually seeze to excist

Why oh why would a student not be able to have the same grade as one of his teachers, if all grades are technical ( as opposed to honourary) and the teacher teaches the student everything he knows ( whiich he should if he is a real teacher)
If all grades are technical and we would stick to your line of thinking, who would give the second in line the higher grade?
Lets say Kernsprecht would be 9th and Leung Ting 10th, Ting dies, who would make Kernsprecht 10th?
If we are talking honourary grades than your line of thinking is outright wrong, if the disciple is doing much more for the art than the teacher then eventually he would be rewarded for that with a higher honourary grade no matter what the grade of the teacher

If students could never attain the level of the teacher, Martial Arts are doomed to die

As they are both masters in the same style and school and as Leug Ting supposedly still teaches Kernspecht, it would be disrespectful to have the same grade. And this is not my way of thinking, it's the chinese way of thinking. But the "Master of Almightiness" grade is the Kernspecht way of thinking. As I said, politics in martial arts do suck!

[Toudiyama[NL]]

As they are both masters in the same style and school and as Leug Ting supposedly still teaches Kernspecht, it would be disrespectful to have the same grade. And this is not my way of thinking, it's the chinese way of thinking. But the "Master of Almightiness" grade is the Kernspecht way of thinking. As I said, politics in martial arts do suck!

Is the chinese way of thinking, that there should only be one person that knows all of the Art, none of the students get all the knowledge except for the top student if the headmaster knows he is going to die and passes on the knowledge fast ( not good) in the latter days of his life
If the master dies suddenly, the knowledge is lost
this would imply that a large number of KF styles are less than what their founder made of it

Appart from this all, is leung Ting really TEACHING Kernsrecht or is he just maintaining like correcting small bad habbits that might have crept in?

[Thai Bri]

As you say, the Master of Almightiness would have to pass on the details before going to see the Almighty.

[Tee Sok]

Is the chinese way of thinking, that there should only be one person that knows all of the Art, none of the students get all the knowledge except for the top student if the headmaster knows he is going to die and passes on the knowledge fast ( not good) in the latter days of his life
If the master dies suddenly, the knowledge is lost
this would imply that a large number of KF styles are less than what their founder made of it

Appart from this all, is leung Ting really TEACHING Kernsrecht or is he just maintaining like correcting small bad habbits that might have crept in?

You got me wrong, or I didn't explain myself clearly. The highest grade/title/ranking should be held only by the master, even if he has transmitted all of his knowledge to his disciples. Once he has passed away, his most experienced/oldest student will become master (that is if the master hadn't chosen his successor before passing away). It is out of respect, and I think it is for the same reason that there are grades given to masters even after their passing away. That is why Bruce Lee told Dan Inosanto that even if he will reach a higher level in JKD than Taky Kimura, he should look at him as his senior.

[Tee Sok]

About Leung Ting teaching Kernspecht: I heard there was another european student before Kernspecht came along and took over and registered all the succession rights or whatever one may call that. I can't remember his name but it sounded familiar to me. So Leung Ting is the master of the WT style and Kernspecht is the politics/marketing mastermind behind him. That's the way I see it...

[bartjam]

what counts is that "Prof." Kernspecht doesn't fight since 25 years or so (he was a wrestler and a ju-jitsu guy), and that "Dr." Leung Ting never fights. So, how do they advance? through philosophy... But I happen to know much better philosophers, and much better Martial Arts instructors and fighters.

[Tee Sok]

I think Boztepe is the perfect example. He has fought real fights since his childhood and I am sure he had more of these than both Kernspecht and Leung Ting. They have used him well: first saying that he was so efficient because of the WT style; then, by showing the Cheung tape over and over again (this to say that their WT was better not only than any other MA, but than other Wing Chun styles as well). As Boztepe was getting more important-also by bringing WT in USA- they thought he could be a menace to their popularity/importance/money and they kicked him out. After that, they said his style was not real WT and blablabla. It's interesting to see that shortly after Boztepe, escrima master Rene Latosa, who was with Ting-Kernspecht since the 70's, decided to leave the organisation.......