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I still don't have the sense to just train hard in a common sense art, and will spend serious money and my best years learning more useless cack from some mystical oriental art
Thats big of you to admit. Have you considered growing up?
That was not full contact, + they kept asking each other if the other was alright when he would get knoked down. The WC dude was really sloppy and his guard was almost always down. His kicks werent that good either. Also the WC dude wasnt really agressive.
Tameo, all of the fake kungfu school as well as fake kungfu instructors here in our place also they execute their kungfu like that......... their kungfu here is more like a kickboxing with a karate and if in a good distance - they perform nonsence animal styles but when attack they immediately position into a karate or kickboxing style......
with these type of kungfu fighting..... deterioration of kungfu is the result....
look, i learn wingchun only in books of Randy Williams and www.wingchun.org only but i dont spar like that.......
the fight should be like those what you see on movies like snake in the eagle shadow starring jackychan(opening fight), and drunken master starring jackychan(opening fight)...... what i mean is, it should be started with full of blocking, intercepting, neutralizing, trapping, before rapid combinations of hands that landed most to opponents body......
the fight should be done in Stand-Up Fighting, Ground Fighting, and Flight Fighting........
the fight should be mixture of simultaenously attack while the other hand defends and the feet - all of them are independent motion between hands and feet without thinking.......
Note:
The endless combinations that you did into wooden dummy - you should do it also in your sparring partner...... but what i see in these wcvsmantissparring.wmv is very very very far.........
Take note also the way they Bow....... its a short-cut....... it should be Kwe-Kun-Kwe, Tiong, then Shou........
i actually enrolled yesterday for northern mantis school
first month tuition is free! and 6 days a week
i thought i was gonna be kinda lame but he incorperates alot of self defense in every lesson
if that is a Northern Praying Mantis Version.....
then why is it that there's presence of Butterfly Kick?????? there's no Lutos Stance to fight in a ground fighting category?????? there's no long/deep horseriding stance?????????? no endless combinations of mantis hook (mantis trademark) and there's no mantis flight fighting kicks??????????
and take note at the mantis Bow........ its a short cut........
wear some armour and go full on, its the only way to know if you can actually hurt someone. I know its bad for you to train in armour(incorrect distance) but it gets you to know if you are really strong enough or not.
the fight should be like those what you see on movies like snake in the eagle shadow starring jackychan(opening fight), and drunken master starring jackychan(opening fight)......
you must be kidding, get your head out of the movies for your own sake pal.
if that is a Northern Praying Mantis Version.....
then why is it that there's presence of Butterfly Kick?????? there's no Lutos Stance to fight in a ground fighting category?????? there's no long/deep horseriding stance?????????? no endless combinations of mantis hook (mantis trademark) and there's no mantis flight fighting kicks??????????
and take note at the mantis Bow........ its a short cut........
wtf what does that have to do with the post I made you quoted?
[QUOTE=sherwinc] no endless combinations of mantis hook (mantis trademark)
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I agree, the most famous attacks by the mantis are it's hooks and precise dim mak points. My sifu showed me once why we have to keep our shoulders in by using tong long as an example where he used the infamous mantis hooks against our blocks. The hooks supress attacks, dig blocks and pin points exact location of where you want to injure. The hooks have some nasty throws as well.
They were using all technique, maybe 40% contact - rather light but I guess ok if you're just trying to work technique. IMO it would have been more impressive at 70%; just hard enough to see if either guys have power but not enough to KO.
Quick observation, both guys looked ok on the outside, but once they closed the distance they seemed to be afraid of getting hit, by leaning away from their body power - kind of reminiscent of UFC 1. Good basic clinch work though; nice that they were allowed to throw.
Both guys had fast high kicks, but rather slow ineffective looking low kicks. Like how WC dude would drive through the center line to keep mantis guy busy with straight punches. Also liked how mantis guy tried some twist throws.
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