Ugh, Iron body fake stuff.

[Shaolinkfman]

Too many people are putting fake exercises for iron body and that could get someone hurt. So i have decided to put a disclaimer.

If anyone actually is stupid enough to do iron body excercises described in the previous posts, then you deserve to hurt/permanentely injure yourself.

I have done some traditional iron body exercises and none of the exercises people have listed have anything to do with them. I dont know what the F is wrong with them, but please don't list iron body exercises, because not only will people injure themselves, it is a tradition that is only supposed to be passed down from teacher to student. Hence why even if you put correct exercises, people still might hurt themselves. So be like the rest of the chinese martial arts culture and try and keep it a secret for my poor american arse.

[HtTKar]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=iron+body+excercises

The secrets out.

[Oraenor]

Too many people are putting fake exercises for iron body and that could get someone hurt. So i have decided to put a disclaimer.

If anyone actually is stupid enough to do iron body excercises described in the previous posts, then you deserve to hurt/permanentely injure yourself.

I have done some traditional iron body exercises and none of the exercises people have listed have anything to do with them. I dont know what the F is wrong with them, but please don't list iron body exercises, because not only will people injure themselves, it is a tradition that is only supposed to be passed down from teacher to student. Hence why even if you put correct exercises, people still might hurt themselves. So be like the rest of the chinese martial arts culture and try and keep it a secret for my poor american arse.

I agree, iron body aka tit bo sarm has nothing to do with hitting yourself objects.It is a chi gung that teaches the body to REPEL not ABSORB damage. True masters can REPEL all energy coming so a person hitting the master with the stick will feel the stick sending back the energy they had swung into. You can tell if a master is real by the attacker.

[holyman]

I believe my repeatedly hitting the body with a stick the body will become tougher. So this not fake.

I have seen masters smash bricks on thier arms and they stand invincible

I agree, iron body aka tit bo sarm has nothing to do with hitting yourself objects.It is a chi gung that teaches the body to REPEL not ABSORB damage. True masters can REPEL all energy coming so a person hitting the master with the stick will feel the stick sending back the energy they had swung into. You can tell if a master is real by the attacker.

[Broadsword2004]

Repeatedly hitting the body so it will become hard does damage in the long run. The Chinese method I think is to hit the body with soft objects first and use healing herbs and gradually, over time, move onto the harder things. But if you straight into punching bricks or wood and getting kicked in the midsection, you'll have kidney damage and arthritis in your hands later on in life.

I dunno if I believe that stuff about smashing bricks though, maybe breaking one, but smashing one?? Many "masters" smash baked bricks, which crumble easily.

[Broadsword2004]

Also I wouldn't say "...and they stand invincible..." all you need is this thing called a gun, and they are dead. That was why all the people in the Boxer Rebellion died.

[Oraenor]

I believe my repeatedly hitting the body with a stick the body will become tougher. So this not fake.

I have seen masters smash bricks on thier arms and they stand invincible

There are such things as FAKE boards and stuff where some chemicals to weaken the boards are used. Fake bricks are made from very sandy material and for the grand finale, smashing real bricks with a hammer technique isnt that hard to do since the brick will absorb all the damage.

[Shaolinkfman]

[QUOTE=Broadsword2004]Repeatedly hitting the body so it will become hard does damage in the long run. The Chinese method I think is to hit the body with soft objects first and use healing herbs and gradually, over time, move onto the harder things. [\QUOTE]

This is correct broadsword, the was I was taught doesn't use "soft" objects but does use objects like wood and rolling pins(Along with herbs we have nicknamed A+B). And it does build up over time you don't start with the hardest wood and the heaviest rolling pin. There is also a mental factor because some of the conditioning hurts like a mother and increases you tolerance for pain. Example: When a 60 lb rolling pin rolls on you shin for the first time. Ironic that its nickname "muffin". And yes some people think rolling pins will damage you permanentely. Not true, because my grandmaster has been doin this for most of his life and he is 61 some years old. Trust me he is fine and kicking (literaly) And could definetly kick some ass!

look at the video called shaolin grandmaster

http://www.shao-lin.com/Category.cfm?CategoryID=13

[Oraenor]

[QUOTE=Shaolinkfman]

Repeatedly hitting the body so it will become hard does damage in the long run. The Chinese method I think is to hit the body with soft objects first and use healing herbs and gradually, over time, move onto the harder things. [\QUOTE]

This is correct broadsword, the was I was taught doesn't use "soft" objects but does use objects like wood and rolling pins(Along with herbs we have nicknamed A+B). And it does build up over time you don't start with the hardest wood and the heaviest rolling pin. There is also a mental factor because some of the conditioning hurts like a mother and increases you tolerance for pain. Example: When a 60 lb rolling pin rolls on you shin for the first time. Ironic that its nickname "muffin". And yes some people think rolling pins will damage you permanentely. Not true, because my grandmaster has been doin this for most of his life and he is 61 some years old. Trust me he is fine and kicking (literaly) And could definetly kick some ass!

look at the video called shaolin grandmaster
http://www.shao-lin.com/Category.cfm?CategoryID=13

you mean A+B= Dit Dar Jow

Hardening areas in your body means losing sensitivity, there is no point to lose all of it like the old days since we dont have to kill or seriously hurt people with it, just enough to take afew punches. There are guns these days to do the job of old KF masters do in the old days.

[Broadsword2004]

Yeah, by "soft," I meant like if you want hard knuckles, first you start like punching sand, use healing herbs, then eventually grabel, keep using the herbs, then eventually wood, then herbs, then eventually steel, keep using the herbs, etc....so your hands stay nice and the skin stays nice but they still get much harder. The "straight-to-steel" way develops ugly calluses and messes up the joints.

Using a rolling pin on the shins I think is okay, as far as I know, as it just gradually toughens the shin and won't do it serious damage. But if you kick your shin into a steel pole 50 times a day, that will do damage in the long run.

[Shaolinkfman]

[QUOTE=Oraenor]you mean A+B= Dit Dar Jow[\QUOTE]

Kind of, but more area specific. A is for outer bruises or abrasions. Hence A.
B is for bones and deep Bruises. Hence B. And dit dat jow is more for iron palm or conditioning on heavy bags where you are less likely to get bruises. And the only place where I lost sensitivity so far is my shins and forearms, thats it.