Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

How do kungfu guys fight Boxers ?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #61
    Originally posted by yipmanfan
    be careful about watching or focusing on any one particular area... that will cause you to anticipate and chase the punch rathr than meet it and deal with it...
    true,..... but i never trust my eyes 100%...... i only 50% rely on my bridge sensitivity, and the remaining 50% is my eyes to see the distance of my opponent to know what kind of KungFu art i immediately used to my advantages.......

    cause my fighting principles are:
    if the opponent is in long distance, i use TaiChi, AngKa, PrayingMantis, ChangChuan, and SpringLeg KungFu

    if the opponent is in medium distance, still i use TaiChi, GoCho

    but if the opponent is in short/ultrashort distance, i use ChiDianBun, GoCho, and WingChun

    Note:
    All KungFu, KungFu All

    haw haw haw haw

    Comment


    • #62
      so not too many things to think of when someone jumps you on the street then

      Comment


      • #63
        Originally posted by Tameo
        You could probably find something about him if you search Joe Sayah in google, i dont think there are any videos of him on the internet fighting in k-1
        I checked out your sifu's website. Not bad, I must say! After seeing how he moves, I think I'll supplement my muay thai with some bak mei my friend trains in just for fun. Ah, I can't wait till the next smoker!

        Comment


        • #64
          I agree, eyes are for judging distance when the bridge is not in contact with the opponent. There's no other way without contact.

          Comment


          • #65
            Originally posted by samekh
            He was chinese and felt that chinese martial arts were superior... JKD is Wing Chun, Mantis, And White Crane... all chinese martial arts.None of which were mastered by him
            Maybe they weren't mastered because he go what was useful from the style to him. If your saying JKD has only Chinese arts in it, then you better do some research because JKD also has Silat, Phillipino MA, Western Boxing, Fencing etc.

            As to the subject of fighting boxers, I actually sparred with my friend who is a licensed boxer. Boxers are powerful, they'll cut through you. You think throwing a counter then a punch will work? Boxers don't really just wait around, they go for the kill. Even if you throw a quick ass straight blast, a boxer will just basically walk through ur attack and proceed with vicious jabs, straights, and uppercuts. I wouldn't try wrestling one, boxers are pretty strong (goodone's) and fit, they'll stick you while you go for the legs or whatnot. If you don't agree with my post that is fine, this is just my opinion. Kung Fu is not just about a style or way of life, its about incorperating it to everyday task as well. You can apply kung fu to boxing, wrestling, raking leaves, or whatnot basically, unlimitless possibilities. I would also love to see some Footage of your skills sherwinc, how bout some FC fighting? Also, the post about why aren't their boxers in the UFC. Maybe not so much in the UFC but maybe you should check K-1, Pride, IFC, RITC, KOTC. Styles that win, and styles that lose or not ever seen in UFC doesnt mean sh*t. The world doesnt revolve around UFC.

            Comment


            • #66
              Originally posted by Studiobuddy
              You think throwing a counter then a punch will work?
              No probably not but throwing a counter and a punch at the same time probably would.

              Comment


              • #67
                Originally posted by Tameo
                No probably not but throwing a counter and a punch at the same time probably would.
                maybe so, but alotta times theyll just walk through ur punch

                maybe the way of beating a boxer is where u hit him

                Comment


                • #68
                  Originally posted by Tameo
                  No probably not but throwing a counter and a punch at the same time probably would.
                  i never see a western boxer in the ring, attack his opponent with a left jab and a right cross simultaenously......

                  or attacking the opponent left uppercut and a right straight punch simultaenously......

                  cause the referree will shout foul??????

                  Note:
                  in WingChun, you attack your opponent with left sunfist and a right sunfist simultaenously, and if you hit your opponent successfully, the referree will shout "good!!!!"

                  Comment


                  • #69
                    Can KungFu beat boxing?? Lets just say boxing is a dangerous art, but their aim is to attack when the opponent is open to an attack and block when the opponent attacks, but if a KF fighter keeps attacking while the boxer is blocking the KF fighter will eventually hurt and bruise em-up so much that theyd then give-up on blocking and just as well be left with very little attack power and the KF fighter would then... BEAT THE LIVING DOG SHIT OUTTA THEM!!!! TheMantis

                    Comment


                    • #70
                      Kung Fu vs. Western Boxing

                      Originally posted by TheMantis
                      Can KungFu beat boxing?? Lets just say boxing is a dangerous art, but their aim is to attack when the opponent is open to an attack and block when the opponent attacks, but if a KF fighter keeps attacking while the boxer is blocking the KF fighter will eventually hurt and bruise em-up so much that theyd then give-up on blocking and just as well be left with very little attack power and the KF fighter would then... BEAT THE LIVING DOG SHIT OUTTA THEM!!!! TheMantis
                      This is not entirely accurate, this can apply both ways, especially if a Boxer is really applying hard hitting combinations to the Kung Fu Artist

                      Two questions to be asked

                      1. Which style of Kung Fu are you talking about?
                      This would be a great factor, since there are so many styles of Kung Fu, all with their own unique techniques. Wing Chun, Choy Li Fut, and perhaps BaGua would be the best to combat a Boxer, but that also depends on how they adapt to the Boxer's techniques.

                      2. The ignorance level of the Kung Fu Artist in judgment of the Boxer's abilities.

                      Many Martial Artists, not just Kung Fu artists, seem to have a great misunderstanding on what Boxing is about. Boxing is not as simplistic as it may seem. It is not just two fighters swinging at each other, hoping to hit the other. Why do you think it is called "The Sweet Science."

                      1. Physically Fit
                      2. Various Strikes From Various Angles
                      3. Exceptional Hand, Foot, and Body Movements to attack or defend against an opponent
                      4. Various strategies

                      Western Boxing is perhaps the best pound for pound pure hand fighting system in the world, as it can be seen why it is so popular and practiced by so many people in the world.

                      Comment


                      • #71
                        boxing is for sure one of the best arts that exists, and it is also one of the most underrated and misunderstood arts. i would take western boxing over any kind of kung fu, and in fact id take western boxing over most other arts.

                        Comment


                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Studiobuddy
                          Maybe they weren't mastered because he go what was useful from the style to him. If your saying JKD has only Chinese arts in it, then you better do some research because JKD also has Silat, Phillipino MA, Western Boxing, Fencing etc.

                          As to the subject of fighting boxers, I actually sparred with my friend who is a licensed boxer. Boxers are powerful, they'll cut through you. You think throwing a counter then a punch will work? Boxers don't really just wait around, they go for the kill. Even if you throw a quick ass straight blast, a boxer will just basically walk through ur attack and proceed with vicious jabs, straights, and uppercuts. I wouldn't try wrestling one, boxers are pretty strong (goodone's) and fit, they'll stick you while you go for the legs or whatnot. If you don't agree with my post that is fine, this is just my opinion. Kung Fu is not just about a style or way of life, its about incorperating it to everyday task as well. You can apply kung fu to boxing, wrestling, raking leaves, or whatnot basically, unlimitless possibilities. I would also love to see some Footage of your skills sherwinc, how bout some FC fighting? Also, the post about why aren't their boxers in the UFC. Maybe not so much in the UFC but maybe you should check K-1, Pride, IFC, RITC, KOTC. Styles that win, and styles that lose or not ever seen in UFC doesnt mean sh*t. The world doesnt revolve around UFC.
                          Look, I surrender, you're the biggest Bruce Lee fan in the world. I really don't care to do any more research about Bruce Lee. You do it and write another post all about it. JKD was never finished and he closed his schools before completing his students training because he DIDN'T FINISH JKD. THAT WAS BECAUSE HE NEVER FINISHED ANY MARTIAL ARTS. How could you say tcertain things weren't useful to him if he didn't stick around long enough to learn them... hmmm.
                          And as far as boxing is concerned, if a boxer is just walking straight through your defense, than you need to work on your defense. Its all about the fighter, not the system. Learn how to deal with jabs if they cause you that much of a problem. And what makes you think that because a boxer is strong, he can wrestle. I bet most grappling specialists would laugh at that.

                          Comment


                          • #73
                            Originally posted by samekh
                            Look, I surrender, you're the biggest Bruce Lee fan in the world. I really don't care to do any more research about Bruce Lee. You do it and write another post all about it. JKD was never finished and he closed his schools before completing his students training because he DIDN'T FINISH JKD. THAT WAS BECAUSE HE NEVER FINISHED ANY MARTIAL ARTS. How could you say tcertain things weren't useful to him if he didn't stick around long enough to learn them... hmmm.
                            And as far as boxing is concerned, if a boxer is just walking straight through your defense, than you need to work on your defense. Its all about the fighter, not the system. Learn how to deal with jabs if they cause you that much of a problem. And what makes you think that because a boxer is strong, he can wrestle. I bet most grappling specialists would laugh at that.
                            It's not just me or my defense system, its more of he's better than me and I just need to keep practicing my techniques. I've watched my friend k.o. opponents in the ring that are in the 20's and 30's. He's only 16 and a licensed boxer. I have sparred with a less experienced boxer that I could get him with and inside block to backfist. Though professional boxers are hard to beat, a good boxer can basically just walk through your defense and attack, then retreat before you counter in some cases. What makes me think a boxer can wrestle? Well not necessarily wrestle but still beats some one's ass on the ground. Have you ever seen the match between Ali and the world's greatest wrestler?
                            Last edited by Studiobuddy; 10-28-2004, 08:56 PM.

                            Comment


                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Boxing Master
                              1. Physically Fit
                              I really impressed about the fitness of the Western Boxers cause they have their stamina in always good condition.....

                              me???? i cant complete finish jogging even just 1 round in a sports complex oval.......

                              i have a very poor stamina......

                              Comment


                              • #75
                                Look I am a big fan of boxing and I respect it lots, but I reckon that any style of Kung-Fu whether it is preying mantis, wing chun, Tiger, snake or what ever but I guess it all depends on their dedication but if they are dedicated enough expert boxers have no chance, if KF fighters have little dedication then they are screwed, I agree, they have to respect the boxers abilities. There is a saying that I always think is true: THE DEADLIEST WEAPON IS USELESS IN THE HANDS OF A MORON. TheMantis
                                Last edited by TheMantis; 10-29-2004, 02:31 AM.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X