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Hi all,
here are some extracts from an discussion with Ba Gua and Xing Yi master Liu Wan Fu of Tianjin. he talks of the old Full contact bouts in China, form and real combat,
just for enjoyment.
Liu believes that the first few seconds of a fight usually decides who will win or lose. He said that in the old style martial arts tournaments, each bout only lasted a few seconds. The first clash decided victory. He said that the people who fought back then were skilled and powerful. There was very little protective equipment worn and thus the first one that got hit usually went down hard.
He said typically the two fighters would walk into the ring, shake hands, back up a bit and then begin to stalk each other. One of them would make the first move and within seconds the fight would be over. He said the fights were never pretty.
Liu says he has practiced martial arts forms almost every day of his life, however he has never gotten away with a clean technique in a real fight. ……
……Many of the movements practiced in forms do not have a direct application to fighting. They are practiced to build certain strengths and principles of body motion. In fighting they would be too complex and too slow.
…. He believes that in fighting you have to be very direct, have fast reflex’, be agile and have strength. He said that most people he has met that practice their long ba gua forms and try to do applications from them cant fight at all …..
having quick reactions, having the proper method and having power behind your method are the three most important components in fighting.
... the only way one can learn 'real' fighting is out on the streets, down and dirty, no rules, no pads, full contact and full speed....
... it seems that many of the idea's people practice and claim as new in the west have been around far longer than they think ...
Kindest Regards
Chris
here are some extracts from an discussion with Ba Gua and Xing Yi master Liu Wan Fu of Tianjin. he talks of the old Full contact bouts in China, form and real combat,
just for enjoyment.
Liu believes that the first few seconds of a fight usually decides who will win or lose. He said that in the old style martial arts tournaments, each bout only lasted a few seconds. The first clash decided victory. He said that the people who fought back then were skilled and powerful. There was very little protective equipment worn and thus the first one that got hit usually went down hard.
He said typically the two fighters would walk into the ring, shake hands, back up a bit and then begin to stalk each other. One of them would make the first move and within seconds the fight would be over. He said the fights were never pretty.
Liu says he has practiced martial arts forms almost every day of his life, however he has never gotten away with a clean technique in a real fight. ……
……Many of the movements practiced in forms do not have a direct application to fighting. They are practiced to build certain strengths and principles of body motion. In fighting they would be too complex and too slow.
…. He believes that in fighting you have to be very direct, have fast reflex’, be agile and have strength. He said that most people he has met that practice their long ba gua forms and try to do applications from them cant fight at all …..
having quick reactions, having the proper method and having power behind your method are the three most important components in fighting.
... the only way one can learn 'real' fighting is out on the streets, down and dirty, no rules, no pads, full contact and full speed....
Kindest Regards
Chris
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