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  • #46
    Originally posted by Tant01
    You dreaming now son....

    Just trying to point you away from the homohumor... don't you think it's cheezy? Or maybe that's the best your tired little pea brain could come up with
    seems like the "homohumor" has got u all excited and worked up. are u sure im the one dreaming??

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    • #47
      Welcome to MY ignore list Troll...


      Congratulations!

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      • #48
        The SAMBO connection!

        San Shou is a martial art which was originally developed by the Chinese military based upon intense study of various traditional methods and combined with modern advanced in sports medicine and training methodology. San Shou is practiced as a combat sport, meaning that training is conducted with safety equipment and competitions are conducted under rules restricting certain tactics and techniques designed for the safety of the participants. However, San Shou is also a compete martial art that teaches striking, kicking, leg kicks, kick catches, sweeps, takedowns and throws. The current sport of San Shou does not include elbow and knee strikes but most San Shou gyms teach these techniques as well.

        In 1924, the Guomindang (Chinese Nationalist Party) established the Whampoa Military Academy in Guangdong (Canton) province, Southern China in order to train the party’s leadership and create a modern military force. Having formed a strategic alliance with the Soviet Union in January 1923, the academy utilized Soviet methods of establishing party discipline, political indoctrination and training of military personnel. As Dr. Sun Yat-Sen, leader of the Guomindang said in 1923 "Since we wish to learn their (the Soviet Union’s) methods, I have asked (Soviet advisor) Mr. (Michael) Borodin to be director of training of our Party." More Soviet advisors arrived in China in 1924, particularly to assist in military training. Of course, the military training is what is of significance to San Shou.
        During the Russo-Japanese War (1904-1905), Russian forces had experienced heavy losses in close quarters combat with the Japanese. As a result of these losses, several movements sprung up in Russia concerned with developing better methods of training the military for close quarters combat (CQC). These movements were later unified and the project made official under the leadership of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) upon their assumption of power in 1917. The result of this project is what is today known as Sambo.

        Under the tutelage of Soviet advisors, the Chinese endeavored to create a similar method of training their military forces in CQC. In the case of the Chinese, who lacked an industrial base and access to most modern warfare technology, this program seemed perhaps even more important than in the Russian case. The Whampoa military instructors studied the existing Chinese martial arts traditions and created San Shou. The military San Shou curriculum, designed to prepare military personnel for CQC, addressed what the Chinese had long considered the four basic martial arts skills;

        "Da" (Striking) use of fist, open hand, elbow, fingers, head

        "Ti" (Kicking) kicking, sweeping, kneeing, stomping

        "Shuai" (Throw) wrestling, throwing, takedowns

        "Na" (Seizing) joint locks and chokes, i.e. submissions

        In establishing a sport version of San Shou, which could be practiced in relative safety on the frequent basis necessary for the development of the basic skills and attributes, the decision was made to use a kickboxing like format. Whether you are verbally harassed, a strike or kick is thrown, you are grabbed or threatened with a weapon, most self-defense situations are initiated while you are standing. Furthermore, being on the ground for any length of time is not advisable both because you are more vulnerable to attack and because the surface itself may present numerous dangers. For these reasons, you should always concentrate on remaining standing and the primary course of study in San Shou addresses the essential elements of a standing fight.

        Sport San Shou utilizes striking, kicking and wrestling but not "submission" ("Na") and/or ground grappling. Originally, elbows and knees were utilized in inter-military San Shou competition but they have been removed from the international sport version which was established in 1991 with the first world championships.

        In 1997, the first attempts were made both in China and in the United States to establish professional San Shou matches conducted in a manner similar to other kickboxing styles such as Muay Thai. Matches are conducted without the protective gear (without headgear, shin guards and the chest protector) and are held in a boxing ring. The Chinese often refer to professional San Shou as "San Da" an older term which was originally used to describe full contact fighting. Professional San Shou/San Da has grown incredibly over the last three years and professional San Shou fighters have recently fought successfully in the K-1 kickboxing promotion and in the Japan Shootboxing Association (JSA).

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Tant01
          Welcome to MY ignore list Troll...


          Congratulations!
          how bout u go **** urself tanto? your an asshole anyway.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by MmaFighter152
            If youve ever even seen a fight in real life with your own two eyes. The opponent who has clearly dominated his opponent with strikes stops, and people do let go once their opponent has been choked out.
            yeah jr ive seen and been INVOLVED in quite a few fights over the years, and unless in the ring, when someone hurts the other guy, thats when they really UP the damage they are trying to do...ive seen guys heads STOMPED by bikers wearing boots after someone is down out cold from a punch...hands stomped to a pulp with the heels of boots of guys who beat down a pool player who hustled them...(AFTER they had koed him btw) and then there is the COMMON classy move like this one....in short it doesnt sound like you have ever been in a fight outside the schoolyard or the mma ring...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by EmptyneSs
              u sound like someone who likes having his colon pounded into oblivion by big penises.
              and you know this sound all to well I suppose

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Tant01
                Most of the throws in Judo intend to land the opponent on his (or her) back.

                Not unlike wrestling, eh?

                Sanshou/Sanda use strikes and kicks to "set up" a throw... Not so much like wrestling, eh?
                We practice some of the same throws in kung fu that we did when I wrestled in school, the difference is that it's rare to see them work on a good wrestler in a wrestling match. Their success rate goes through the roof if you land a few solid punches (or palm strikes) before you try them though Thanks for posting the research on San Shou.

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                • #53
                  I say that, both TMA and MMA have got to get over their presumptions and learn from eachother. I have seen way too many TMA trainers that just aren't willing to put in the hard slogs that MMA guys will. THAT's WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE. Most good MMA fighters are amazing athletes with a bag of trick to boot, but I believe it is their hard training that makes them that way rather than any kind of 'technique.' On the same hand, they shouldn't neglect the fact that they are as much a sport as a martial art. On the street some guys go down from a kick to the nuts, some guys don't (as I have seen) but its definitely something that I will keep in my repertoire when someone's trying to do some permanent damage. Also technique's need to be contextualised, BJJ grappling is great for one on one but I wouldn't want to count on it when there is more than one guy around. I have personally seen wrestlers go down on the street because of them not taking this into account. Eyes, throat, groin, throw, KO it's all good as long as it works...

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                  • #54
                    Check out ShuaiJiao..
                    Thats the wrestling-brother od SANDA

                    However, Sanda also has different throws, But sanda guys in china usually go to 1 or 2 SJ lessons per week

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