Wing Chun Forms

[whitebelt]

You guys are crazed if you think natural ability is better than a yellow belt in one of the worlds major martial arts systems. Natural ability amounts to a haymaker or a tackle. Also, a yellow belt would have better physical conditioning, ie. pushups, cardio, and maybe weights. Along with the basic kicks, basic punches and basic blocks and some sparring experience.

[jmd161]

You guys are crazed if you think natural ability is better than a yellow belt in one of the worlds major martial arts systems. Natural ability amounts to a haymaker or a tackle. Also, a yellow belt would have better physical conditioning, ie. pushups, cardio, and maybe weights. Along with the basic kicks, basic punches and basic blocks and some sparring experience.

We could go back and fourth all day telling you why, and you'd never get it. I've been involved in martial arts over 23+ yrs. I'm sure you know what you're talking about and i don't

It's a continuing cycle, kids always think they know it all, until they mature and realise they know nothing. You just continue to train, you'll see it all clearly one day.

jeff

[white devil]

It's a continuing cycle, kids always think they know it all, until they mature and realise they know nothing. You just continue to train, you'll see it all clearly one day.

come to think of it..not even one year has passed since i used to be a traditonal martial arts fanatic..I used to believe all the crap that came along..Well what the guy above says is true,you end up seeing it for yourself and im glad sooner was the better for me.

[Thai Bri]

You have no knowledge of how we learn.

If we were talking about swimming, then I would agree with you. Because we have no natural ability to swim (don't include those idiots who tell you that babies can swim..... even they only leave the babies in the water for a few seconds). So someone with a few lessons has a far better chance than someone with no experience.

But we DO have a natural ability to fight. We are hard wired to do it. Learning a different method to our very own may well be more effective, but only when you have both fully UNLEARNED your own method, AND learned enough of the new method to exceed the abilities that you started with naturally.

Otherwise any old yellow belt would be one of the toughest people in town, because he would be able to bat all kinds of untrained louts. And this is clearly untrue.

You knob.

[Hardball]

Wow, this forms thread has gotten way off topic. Ha Ha Ha

[Mephariel]

Wing Chun training at least give me training in punches and faster reflexes. I rather learn TKD, Karate, Wing Chun, etc. than nothing just to get use to punching and kicking. Hell, I rather have Wing Chun training even if I don't plan to use it in real life.

[elliotNess]

I liked working out with the wooden dummy and I also liked my sifu. He taught the forms in pieces and had the auru of a drill sargent.

[tjwingchun]

I learned Sil Lim Tao from my Sifu, while cross training in Wing Chun. I've been able to learn several forms from books and tapes (other systems) but I find the Bil Gee form and Chum Kil forms overwhelming to watch on vid. Has anyone here taught themselves Bil Gee or Chum Kil? What alternative methods do you suggest to learn these forms other than a Paid Sifu?

You still out there? If you are I can give you some help with training, either here or email me, there is some basic info on my website covering the first two forms and more once my new site is finished, soon hopefully.

All the best Trevor

[Hardball]

You still out there? If you are I can give you some help with training, either here or email me, there is some basic info on my website covering the first two forms and more once my new site is finished, soon hopefully.

All the best Trevor

Yea, fire away. Any suggestions on chum kil and bil gee? I already know sil lum tao. Keep in mind I only do them for fun as my main system is JJJ. You didn't post the address to your website. A little background info on myself, I am 50 years old and in decent shape. I use forms for moving meditation, mental alertness and fun at the beach and forest. I also do them with tai chi music. Now, how can you help me learn chum kil and bil jee. Peace to all.

[tjwingchun]

Sorry Hardball thought my website www.tjwingchun.co.uk was seen in my signature there is a written account of Chum Kiu on the site which is a start, the first thing to do is learn the sequence, I tend to split it into thirds, the first third of Chum Kiu is the longest, it not only focusses on introducing turning proper, it develops using both arms independantly together? Confusing well I am just starting lol.

If you can let me know more specifically what you are after then I will try to accommodate you, if you wish to have a chat I have messenger via tjwingchun@hotmail.com and tjwingchun@yahoo.co.uk

Once you have confidence in performing the sequence we can begin developing knowledge and understanding of the relevant concepts and principles of the various techniques.

[marcus_p]

I learned Sil Lim Tao from my Sifu, while cross training in Wing Chun. I've been able to learn several forms from books and tapes (other systems) but I find the Bil Gee form and Chum Kil forms overwhelming to watch on vid. Has anyone here taught themselves Bil Gee or Chum Kil? What alternative methods do you suggest to learn these forms other than a Paid Sifu?

Hello Hardball,

You could find some WC practitioners with the knowledge you seek and exchange knowledge / barter. Each movement in the WC forms have some meaning(s) and translate to a technique. If the person can't explain and demonstrate those movements, look for another.

Good Luck!
/Marcus