Wing Chun power

[Sagacious Lu]

That was a pretty nice arm bar that Orr used to finish the fight. I wonder where he learned that?

[Hardball]

That was a pretty nice arm bar that Orr used to finish the fight. I wonder where he learned that?

It's called Chin Na in Chinese martial arts ...............or Chin Na could be specific to Wing Chun. It's what the advance wing chunners learn along with bill gee, and chum kil.

[Sagacious Lu]

It's called Chin Na in Chinese martial arts ...............or Chin Na could be specific to Wing Chun. It's what the advance wing chunners learn along with bill gee, and chum kil.

I spent quite a bit of time on chin na when I used to practice Hung Gar, and there's no way I going to believe he learned to do that from chin na. Chin na has some cool stuff, but it's done while standing, and although it might end on the ground it doesn't include ground fighting.

[Hardball]

I spent quite a bit of time on chin na when I used to practice Hung Gar, and there's no way I going to believe he learned to do that from chin na. Chin na has some cool stuff, but it's done while standing, and although it might end on the ground it doesn't include ground fighting.

Well my area of expertise is JJJ; I was just guessing about the chin na. He he he You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bullshit. LOL..I'm an academic Bro!!!

[Sagacious Lu]

Well my area of expertise is JJJ; I was just guessing about the chin na. He he he You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance then baffle them with bullshit. LOL..I'm an academic Bro!!!

No sweat, you know at least as much about chin na as I do about JJJ :P

[Thai Bri]

Troll, you are one self deluded Mo Fo! Haw haw haw!

Just watched the Alan Orr clip again. The one where he uses Western Boxing footwork, and then western boxing crosses and hooks..... and then grappling! That's Wing Chun in action! Haw haw haw!

At least Hardball turned out to be joking when he claimed an arm bar was somehow part of Wing Chun. The sad thing is that you are not.

But at least we all now know what good Wing Chun looks like. It looks like MMA..... Durrrrr!

[Troll Virus]

Troll, you are one self deluded Mo Fo! Haw haw haw!

There we go again folks.
Once more, Thai Bri has responded to every question he was asked (NOT).
Once more, his epitaph is Haw haw haw!

[Red Rum]

Oh my word, I go away for a couple of days and everyone has insulted that which I love!!

I understand people's hatred for wing chun - most of the wing chun schools I have seen have been poor, especially in America.

People have to understand that you take wing chun as a 'starting art' otherwise known as a 'core art'. It gives you understanding of joint alignment, stancework, punching power, basic/helpful theories such as centre line and tension. All of this can be moulded in any way people want. Some people branch out into BJJ. Others go into JKD.

I have played with a few arts for a few years. I am by no means better than the proffessional boxers that are out there - what I was trying to say that the boxers I have seen in streetfights tend to struggle. Mike Tyson once mentioned that he hit a guy and damaged his hand, because he was use to wearing gloves. Now I'm sure the guy he hit is probably in a grave somewhere, but the point is that he injured himself quite badly in just one hit.

Good wing chunners will it someone and move on to the next guy.

I train with good boxers and the first thing they told me is that they often struggle in crowded places (kebab shops, clubs, etc) as they can't move around or pull back to punch. The point I was originally making is that wing chun does not need space and helps make for a much realistic fighting style. If space is there, fine. If it's not, fine.

Thai Bri, before you decimate more wing chun guys, why don't you pop down to a wing chun school in London.

Kamon always holds it's doors open (no matter your attitude). It seems to me that you have been scarred by previous training, but you should not let that put you off exploring other versions of the same art

[Sagacious Lu]

I train with good boxers and the first thing they told me is that they often struggle in crowded places (kebab shops, clubs, etc) as they can't move around or pull back to punch.

That's absurd, good boxers don't pull their hand back to punch because it telegraphs the shot.

[Troll Virus]

That's absurd, good boxers don't pull their hand back to punch because it telegraphs the shot.

He didn't say anything about pulling their hands back numbnuts.

[Red Rum]

Are you saying that boxers don't turn their body when they hit? Or use roundhouse punches? Next time you watch a boxing match, have a good look at their movement. A lot of boxers do pull back to hit. Especially the heavyweights. A lot of them don't do it to that much of a degree, but it does happen

And no, I wasn't talking about pulling back their punch, but their general movement

The general idea is that the movement that a boxer is used to cannot be performed in crowded places.

[jubaji]

The general idea is that the movement that a boxer is used to cannot be performed in crowded places.

Kid.....stop digging already.

[Troll Virus]

The general idea is that the movement that a boxer is used to cannot be performed in crowded places.

Like the clinch, on the ropes or in the corner?
The boxing ring itself isn't huge.

Strike that idea and move on.

[Red Rum]

Jubaji, stop posting stupid one liners that have no coherent argument. If you think that what I am saying is wrong then at least put an argument forward rather than make general comments that have no relevance.

[Red Rum]

Like the clinch, on the ropes or in the corner?
The boxing ring itself isn't huge.

Strike that idea and move on.

And what does the boxer do in the clinch? He can't hit out...
Which just makes the point.

A boxing ring is pretty big. I'm talking about clubs or kebab shops or pubs where there is absolutely no room