Shuai Jiao Video Clip

[Tom Yum]

Boar and jubaji would probably enjoy this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IjmnMaCk2Y

[jubaji]

And enjoy it I did!

[Tom Yum]

And enjoy it I did!

The mat they are using looks kinda thin and the throws are kind of high. The excercise with the cinder block looked interesting.

[LoneHusky]

awesome vid.

[jubaji]

The excercise with the cinder block looked interesting.

Looked like a great way to f up your back.

[Tom Yum]

Looked like a great way to f up your back.

Isn't that movement similar to what they do with kettlebells?

[jubaji]

Yup, maybe I see these things through the lens of a bad back!!!

[Tom Yum]

Yup, maybe I see these things through the lens of a bad back!!!

.....Ouch.

[BoarSpear]

Isn't that movement similar to what they do with kettlebells?

Yep its pretty damn close to kettle ball training, If you don't get proper training or If you try to show off by doing things with too heavy blocks and poor body mechanics you'll ruin your back, shoulders and knees, FOR CERTAIN. Most people sling too heavy of a block to be "cool" and really do more damage than good. YEARS are supposed to be spent moving up to the heavier blocks but people start swinging them as soon as they can get their little paws on them, I see it all the time.

[Tom Yum]

Yep its pretty damn close to kettle ball training, If you don't get proper training or If you try to show off by doing things with too heavy blocks and poor body mechanics you'll ruin your back, shoulders and knees, FOR CERTAIN. Most people sling too heavy of a block to be "cool" and really do more damage than good. YEARS are supposed to be spent moving up to the heavier blocks but people start swinging them as soon as they can get their little paws on them, I see it all the time.

Nice.

I wondered why kettlebells were so light compared to traditional weights.

Thanks!

[BoarSpear]

Nice.

I wondered why kettlebells were so light compared to traditional weights.

Thanks!

Circular and leverage weight training is different than typical weight training in that MUCH lighter weights are used. 5 lbs is FAR more weight than the average person can use PROPERLY in circular training.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

nice vid, shuai jiao is one of the arts on my wishlist to experience, and high enough on the list that i may actually get around to it in one lifetime.

random sidenotes, i hear those "cinderblocks" are pieces (or replicas of pieces rather) of a very old design of locks used on heavy doors.

[DickHardman]

looks almost identical to judo, minus the cinder block training.

[Tom Yum]

looks almost identical to judo, minus the cinder block training.

It does.

Dr.Kano jigoro removed the more destructive techniques from jujitsu when he created judo. My best guess is that shuaijiao, as a complete art, was probably the pre-cursor to Japanese Jujitsu, except all accounts I've heard that the emphasis was on throwing your oponent from the greates height you can.

If your oponent is approximately your same size, you can do that by seizing one or both of his legs, lifting him up and throwing him down. If he's much larger, the hips and sweeps help do the job.

Never the less, interesting art.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Im not trying to bash Shuai Jiao in any way but i think alot of those throws in the video were shown just because they look pretty. Im sure those moves require alot of technique and expertise to perform, but its a lot easier to do those throws on someone who is letting you to get the kind of position on them that you need to execute those throws.

I watched the "Championnat de France Shuai Jiao 2006" matches at i wasnt impressed. I dont know what the rules were exactly, but it looked like the goal was "take your opponent down any way you can" because i saw all types of takedown attempts, even a sloppy knee pick at one point. They also went for a lot of foot sweeps, like osoto garis. Its just my opinion, but these guys looked very unskilled. Ofcoarse that was only sport Shuai Jiao, i just wouldve expected it to be much more skilled.....

This is one of the vids i was talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYqW67992Yw