How to fight a grappler - Erle Montaigue

[Eagleye]

http://www.youtube.com/v/Bvf6MAV3vBA

[knifethrower]

and they were incorrect in many cases. Not even a BJJ whitebelt or a novice judo player would do some of the things he did. I guess I'm missing the point...

cool...

Got a few vids on what a BJJ or judo player would do?...

From a distance, dude. We’re talking entry…

[knifethrower]

Could you sprawl against this stuff?

[darrianation]

Would it be fare to say that some grappling training would be an important ingredient to defeating a grappler? Not only do I think it is important but almost necessary or at at least benificial.

[knifethrower]

There are other answers that are equally valid, too.

That’s what his vid is about (not the clip but, the vid). He talks about how a grappler will cross the gap and how Tai Chi deals with it.

Really wish Eagleye would say why he posted this. You got a question about it or something to say?

Anyway…its s good vid and worth the cash. You won’t learn how to grapple from it but, you will understand how a Tai Chi dude will defend the gap.

[Eagleye]

That’s what his vid is about (not the clip but, the vid). He talks about how a grappler will cross the gap and how Tai Chi deals with it.

Really wish Eagleye would say why he posted this. You got a question about it or something to say?

Anyway…its s good vid and worth the cash. You won’t learn how to grapple from it but, you will understand how a Tai Chi dude will defend the gap.

i realized this was only a fraction of the whole video.

i posted this to see what everyone thought about it.

i personally thought it was just stating the obvious, but thought it was interesting because it was in made in 1994 and it showed how much martial arts have come since then.

[Eagleye]

Could you sprawl against this stuff?

what "stuff"?

[Eagleye]

One more. Not as fun to watch, but look at the guy's position, how he either wraps his leg behind or pushes it between his opponent's legs. Look at where he grabs. Nothing like Earle's video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcoI6...elated&search=

that guys technique and distance is still a bit off.

also, the black guy is not putting forth any resistance. i understand theyre just drilling takedowns to get their technique right but more resistance is better for actually finishing it.

[Eagleye]

cool...

Got a few vids on what a BJJ or judo player would do?...

From a distance, dude. We’re talking entry…

in a real fight a takedown is set up with strikes usually. mixed martial arts fighters do a great job of this cause theyre aware of all the different strikes that can be thrown on the way in which would knock them out.

[Red Rum]

Would it be fare to say that some grappling training would be an important ingredient to defeating a grappler? Not only do I think it is important but almost necessary or at at least benificial.

I think some people have ignored your comment and I don't know why. It is the best point on here.

Too many kung fu styles train 'anti-grappling or anti-takedown stuff which is just silly

If you are grabbed from behind in a chokehold in a bar by someone and dragged to the floor, wing chun and many other kung fu styles fall apart.

Even myself - I'm a big guy and legs that are thick and wide, but a good fighter could get me to the ground if I wasn't expecting it

I find it essential to training to cover a grappling art. It doesn't have to be BJJ (although that is the one I enjoy doing), it could Sombo or Catch wrestling for example

[Thai Bri]

If you are grabbed from behind in a chokehold in a bar by someone and dragged to the floor, wing chun and many other kung fu styles fall apart.

Hallelujah!

[Tom Yum]

Noooooooooooo! I wanna anti-grapple the grapple. It jus sounds cooler!!


PS - isn't a grapple one of those apples injected with some kind of grape flavoring?

[Britt]

PS - isn't a grapple one of those apples injected with some kind of grape flavoring?

Yeah, but they have one of those "long A" lines over the a so you'll know it's pronounced "grape-el." I love 'em, but they taste more like grape candy than real grapes.

[jubaji]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJgiKN_tYNY

I wonder how old Erle would make out?

[jubaji]

Gotta love that lateral drop at 2:39. I've gotten a lot of mileage out of that move.