Scientific Theories on Chi

[taoistscholar]

energy is energy whether it is electricity, heat, kinetic energy or chi. why do we need scientific proof we know we can control energy and we also know energy is all around us to never be created or destroyed.

[taoistscholar]

chi is no paranormal super power no matter how much people think it is.

[xyl]

energy is energy whether it is electricity, heat, kinetic energy or chi. why do we need scientific proof we know we can control energy and we also know energy is all around us to never be created or destroyed.

the original question was "Any ideas on what the original scientific basis " [of qi]
so i dont see the relevance of asking ``why do we need a scientific proof''. if we assume
there was a scientific basis then we have to look at it scientifically. that means using
the specific definitions of energy. heat is not energy, its energy transfer with
increased entropy; heat in science is not how its used in everyday layman terms.
eletrical energy has a specific definition and equivalent mathematical
equation to it. this is the kind of rigour you need to look at the question scientifically.

whether this is the right way to go about it is not what im saying. im just looking
at the original premise of the thread; whether there was a scientific meaning of qi.
as to that, its like trying to map all the lineages back to the Shaolin temple, prob
not gonna happen, but ppl talke about it all the time. not something to lose sleep
over. its very hard to answer in
a scientific veiw point if theres no consensus on the definition to begin with.

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[ggg214]

i don't agree to use scientific methods to explain a thing which is old enough and based on different principles. and i dont think science is already perfect to explain things on this world.

[Red Rum]

The trouble is, there are some things that you just don't want explained
Like the Loch Ness Monster or Jack The Ripper - while we seek answers, we secretly don't really want them to be answered. We like the mystery.

When I watched David Blaine 'levitate' it blew me away. Yet I saw the Masked street magician on TV two months later and it showed how it was done. It made me cry...

I think those idiots who promote chi as a mystical thing to promote their kung fu business should be shut down. Chi is more of a concept than a definable thing. If you believe in it then great. If not, then good luck to you. I believe that there are things in this world that we aren't smart enough to explain just yet.

Peace out

[taoistscholar]

heat is not energy, its energy transfer with
increased entropy

Heat is energy! It's thermal energy. It costs energy to increase temperature. Thus, kinetic energy is being consumed inorder to increase the temperature. Energy is alllll energy no matter how we look at it. Sure energy can change forms under conservation laws. But it still is ENERGY. There're no different types of energys; just different forms of the same type.

i don't agree to use scientific methods to explain a thing which is old enough and based on different principles

How come? just because of its age does not mean that it cannot be explained nowadays.

and i dont think science is already perfect to explain things on this world.

True, Science is not perfect. However, still i believe that it can eventually find an explanation for everything.

...eventually...

The trouble is, there are some things that you just don't want explained
Like the Loch Ness Monster or Jack The Ripper - while we seek answers, we secretly don't really want them to be answered. We like the mystery.

When I watched David Blaine 'levitate' it blew me away. Yet I saw the Masked street magician on TV two months later and it showed how it was done. It made me cry...

I think those idiots who promote chi as a mystical thing to promote their kung fu business should be shut down. Chi is more of a concept than a definable thing. If you believe in it then great. If not, then good luck to you. I believe that there are things in this world that we aren't smart enough to explain just yet.

Peace out

Word!

It's all about making something so simple seem complex. Our ego seeks out flashiness and complexity. Something we spend so much time in i.e Martial Arts, will make us believe we are the best and we know something others do not (if not everything). We believe we know more and make it seem so complex in doing so. Really, the answer is all too simple, we're just looking in the wrong direction or we're just to smart to comprehend.

[Tant01]

Do we understand?

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Word!

It's all about making something so simple seem complex. Our ego seeks out flashiness and complexity. Something we spend so much time in i.e Martial Arts, will make us believe we are the best and we know something others do not (if not everything). We believe we know more and make it seem so complex in doing so. Really, the answer is all too simple, "We're just too smart to comprehend".

............Indeed...

It is often why I reserve the right to share what little I know...