Kong-Fu Vs. MMA? LOL

[Tant01]

Wrong ghost...

Uke you talk a lot of rubbish, im sorry, but you really are full of it.

That was a load of shit that fight, and you know it. I did kung fu for 2 years myself and have studied various martial arts for many years and i can tell you that even a complete moron can tell that was a load of shit.

..........Uke ??? Hasn't posted in this thread and like I said.... The IP's have been checked (and double checked) No one is pretending to be two different people...

LOL

But it's funny that folks keep asserting it to be the case.

[TTEscrima]

and your instructor is?

Boar.

[TTEscrima]

..........Uke ??? Hasn't posted in this thread and like I said.... The IP's have been checked (and double checked) No one is pretending to be two different people...

LOL

But it's funny that folks keep asserting it to be the case.

Well, when it's all they have other than name calling, they need something for a variation on their act.

[Ghost]

Boar.

and Boars real name is?

*yawns*

[TTEscrima]

and Boars real name is?

*yawns*

You don't have a need to know or you would. He's invited several people from the forum out over the years, Garland (invite still stands), Treelizard, Knifethrower, Brewer (LOL he made more excuses than a virgin on prom night) and I believe Tomyum, Uke and Tanto1. Only Knifethrower ever came, his review is on here if you look. Boar doesn't teach clowns,and therefore doesn't advertise to them, his classes are for people with a need to know, visit one of the forums that is full of SF, Secret Service, MSD and SWAT and he's very well known and respected, you'll have to provide your real name and be vetted, something Brewer was unable to accomplish, and you'll get paid a visit in person to verify your skills if you intend to share your "martial opinions and expertise". Here's a direct quote from Mercop at one of those forums.

"While in FL for my Grandfathers Funeral I spent about 12 hrs at the Belladeau compound. About 10 hrs of which was spent actively in drills and learning.

Belladeau (Boar) has some serious skills and I would put him in the top five most dangerous men I have ever met no matter what the discipline. His hands are sticky like a tree frog. Like my master when he lays his hands on you it feels like his whole body is wrapped around you. If I can swing it this summer I plan to return for a few days. I was also impressed how everyone you saw or have seen in his videos was willing to train with me and was able to make all the same teaching points as their Master." Posted by Mercop. MODERN COMBATIVE SYSTEMS - Self Defense Training for Civilians, Military and Law Enforcement Agencies - Open Hand, Stick, Knife and Pistol

Here's what some of the big dogs say about Mercop.

"George Matheis is a tough guy. He teaches a tough, no-nonsense brand of combatives born and bred for the street. It works. I've seen it and I've felt it. I'm glad he's on our side!" - Ernest Emerson

"Just a heads up to tactical minded practitioners of the arts or self defense. Having read many of the articles provided by George Matheis Jr. and reviewed his video contributions to the personal protection industry I believe his Modern Combative Systems will offer positive results when seeking solid practical solutions to self defense. From a personal standpoint, I believe George is a sincere and dedicated man who walks the walk, sifts through the bullshit, and trains hard instead of just talking about it." - Kelly S. Worden

Kelly Worden and Ernest Emerson are impressed with Mercop, and you read Mercops review of Boar.


I'll save you hunting Knifethrowers review:

EVIL, WITCH, HERETIC…..BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!! HANG THE WITCH, HANG THE WITCH, HANG THE WITCH!!!!!

I went to his house and I saw this…this…this evil magic.

Okay, I don’t like to brag…I use to but, I grew out of it. Let me just go back to being a cocky kid for just a moment. I’m fuking fast, quicker that lighting and I’ll fight a man in a phone both and he still won’t touch me. In all honesty I have seen people faster then me ( while playing basket ball games) and I had to back off a bit and play back so I didn’t get burned. However, for the most part NOBODY IS FASTER THAN ME!!! I went to Florida and met Nobody…I didn’t meet Boar because NOBODY MOVES THAT FAST!!!! BURN THE WITCH!!! BURN THE WITCH!!!

All jokes aside, this shit can really fuk with your head. If you have a chance, you should play with some of this. I’m not as quick as the cocky kid in me would like to think but I’m pretty fast…but I’ve NEVER been burned that bad before and I’ve been up against REALLY quick guys. The cool thing is, given a little time, I‘ll be doing this too

Thanks dude you cleared some things up

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/urban-street-combatives-r-b-m/19759-subliminal-gestures-combat-3.html#post211149

[Ghost]

sounds like fun, where did he study?

im surprised no one turned up, id like to learn something that was pistol/weapon related. why didnt they go?

any videos at all?

EDIT: found the videos, taking a look

[TTEscrima]

sounds like fun, where did he study?

Boar is the 3rd gen. practitioner/head of his family style (now into the 5th gen) that came directly from his Grandad who was an instructor at the Central Institute for the Study of Close Combat Strategy and Theory located in Nanjing, virtually all of them have been or are SF trainers.

im surprised no one turned up, id like to learn something that was pistol/weapon related. why didnt they go?

You'd have to ask them, although time and travel constraints definitely played a part for some of them.

[Ghost]

interesting, whats the knife sparring like?

Do you find you get much of a success rate with disarms and if so which ones?
Do you spar full contact with the knives and armed vs unarmed etc?
I found when sparring that things were a lot different to live drills, if you dont use rubber knives. Use wooden or blunt metal and it hurts like ****, so you have the respect for it.

In our knife training in the Uk we did mainly live drills and once every week or other week wed do full on sparring with no padding, which just lets you try and work all the stuff you learnt. which is really eye opening always.

[TTEscrima]

interesting, whats the knife sparring like?

Do you find you get much of a success rate with disarms and if so which ones?
Do you spar full contact with the knives and armed vs unarmed etc?
I found when sparring that things were a lot different to live drills, if you dont use rubber knives. Use wooden or blunt metal and it hurts like ****, so you have the respect for it.

In our knife training in the Uk we did mainly live drills and once every week or other week wed do full on sparring with no padding, which just lets you try and work all the stuff you learnt. which is really eye opening always.

Knife and other assorted weapon training is regular, we don't duel or practice dueling and disarms are incidental to accidental as you deanimate the threat. As for wood or metal, someone would die if either were used during the type of type training Boar emphasizes. People wind up bleeding from rubber knife slashes and thrust as it is, its not uncommon to see knots and bruises from the rubber handles when those are used as impact weapons whether its intentional or incidental. As for padding, Boar says its for bras and resumes, with the exception of teaching certain throws he doesn't allow mats or pads because they teach a false sense of security and range. He says he learned without fancy pads and mats, so can we, if you can't stand up to some abuse you're in the wrong school.

He loves to secretly pass out weapons to people to use whenever they want to surprise who ever they want during any type of training. Advanced students are encouraged to ambush each other whenever and wherever to increase their awareness, I've seen them roll out of cars at traffic lights with rubber knives and go after a classmate they happen to see in another car.

[Ghost]

Knife and other assorted weapon training is regular, we don't duel or practice dueling and disarms are incidental to accidental as you deanimate the threat. As for wood or metal, someone would die if either were used during the type of type training Boar emphasizes. People wind up bleeding from rubber knife slashes and thrust as it is, its not uncommon to see knots and bruises from the rubber handles when those are used as impact weapons whether its intentional or incidental. As for padding, Boar says its for bras and resumes, with the exception of teaching certain throws he doesn't allow mats or pads because they teach a false sense of security and range. He says he learned without fancy pads and mats, so can we, if you can't stand up to some abuse you're in the wrong school.

He loves to secretly pass out weapons to people to use whenever they want to surprise who ever they want during any type of training. Advanced students are encouraged to ambush each other whenever and wherever to increase their awareness, I've seen them roll out of cars at traffic lights with rubber knives and go after a classmate they happen to see in another car.

sounds very similar to the training i got in the uk from my instructor, though we used wooden and blunt metal knives, its very painful and has led to broken bones and so on and same as you, no pads.

The first thing that really switched me on mentally was after the first class, i was exhausted and sitting in the car in the carpark after downing water, engine running and just trying to get myself back together, door flew open, training knife to the throat, was my instructor.
He went easy on me though but its a lesson that has stuck ever since, was just a huge wake up call.
He showed me later how approached the car through the blind spot area in the wing mirror to get to the door while staying low and taht was that.

do you cover driving as well? aggressive and defensive driving techniques etc?

[TTEscrima]

do you cover driving as well? aggressive and defensive driving techniques etc?

Boar stresses training and preparing for all types of threats that you are likely to encounter.

[Uke]

Dude, I'm shocked that you shared any of that. Next you'll be faxing copies of Boar's DD214 to prove points. Too many of us appreciate and respect what Boar does for him to ever have to go to those lengths to prove something to someone who can't or rather refuses to see the value in what he or any of us do.

Just a thought

[TigerClaw]

Shaolin gong fu vs. Korean TKD
YouTube - Very rare fight shaolin kung fu vs. Karate

Looks like the gong fu guy was restraining himself, showing the openings he could have taken (eyes, groin etc) but seems comfortable going toe to toe with the TKD blackbelt. He seems very relaxed, strikes quickly, comfortable footwork - but this is more of an exhibition match it seems.
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I remeber one time my instructor had a Black Belt tae Kwon Do guy come into our club. The man did not seem to want to start at the beginning, so he wore his black belt around in a Kung Fu club as if he was showing off or something similar. My instructor didn't like that kind of thing. So he took him aside and asked him to spar with him. The Tae Kwon Do man did just that and began jumping around as they do. My instructor took a poised Praying mantis stance and guard, very flowery and fancy. He overcame the tae Kwon Do man everytime, very easily and he did it with some fancy movements.

One of the reason I bring this up is to point out that Kung Fu does have fancy flowery type moves in it, or so they would seem to the fighters who learn basic kick boxing type moves. Buy there is a reason that my instructor looked like a giant insect and the moves he did were intended to capture and lock and overcome the opponent as if he was fighting a large Praying Mantis.it was very facinating to watch and he fought with graceful techniques and speed..

[TTEscrima]

Dude, I'm shocked that you shared any of that. Next you'll be faxing copies of Boar's DD214 to prove points. Too many of us appreciate and respect what Boar does for him to ever have to go to those lengths to prove something to someone who can't or rather refuses to see the value in what he or any of us do.

Just a thought

Fortunately, they're not the only ones reading what I post, or I would have stopped long ago. It's not all about the regular posters, we've met some good people on the net who've never posted due to the trolls but thanked us for tolerating their nonsense to try to share knowledge.

[FLMKane]

Finally you say something which makes sense.Taekwondo sucks. Althouh you can get good fighters out of it sometimes.