dangers of flakey teachers and the rise of internet fu

[JadeDragon]

Blame it on the trolls who come here every so often and post outrageous stuff.

This guy came to a forum that everyone knows leans towards MMA, and started trolling about how his Kung Fu could destroy MMA fighters in 15 seconds.

It gives a bad name to Kung Fu.

It just takes one bad apple to ruine the whole bunch. Not all kung fu practitioners are like him. I do kung fu and do wrestling & BJJ.

[Ben Grimm]

I'm not afraid to cross hands with you or TigerClaw. You both talk big, but neither of you can fight. I've never said I was some street fighting god or a professional martialartist, but I'm unafraid of a good fight. My current teacher's name is Li Bao Long and he still teaches in Huizhou City, Guangdong Province, China. Now it's time for the children to go away and STFU while the real martial artists talk, OK?

[TigerClaw]

Blame it on the trolls who come here every so often and post outrageous stuff.

This guy came to a forum that everyone knows leans towards MMA, and started trolling about how his Kung Fu could destroy MMA fighters in 15 seconds.

It gives a bad name to Kung Fu.

I didn't post outrageous stuff, I compared sport tv rules MMA fighting with combat survival Kung fu fighting. And the experts agreed with me, I quoted more than one of them. But you think you know it all, or sound like you think you do. You really do not understand a great many things in Kung Fu or the martial arts. yet you proudly go around trying to correct martial arts teacher as if you think you are right. You are very wrong about me and many other things you have said.

I did not say that I personally could destroy anyone, you misquoted. I believe I mentioned my instructor against Ben Grimm and perhaps a few other MMA type fighters. I was only pointing out the reality of combat fighting to sport fighting. I also speak about techniques in kung fu that are not allowed in MMA sport, rule, fighting.

[Ben Grimm]

Oh yes, Mr. 'i'm a fraud" Brian "I teach a Martial art based on non-contact principles that wouldn't protect you from anybody but will take your money" Leishman.

[TigerClaw]

Oh yes, Mr. 'i'm a fraud" Brian "I teach a Martial art based on non-contact principles that wouldn't protect you from anybody but will take your money" Leishman.

Wrong, everything Brian taught was combative, at least when he taught us, he knew many things and not just the things some claim he knew. You don't know what you are talking about there.

By the way I have not met many who could fight like he did. He is so effective at his kung fu that he was able to develop his own style over the years. At one time he was connected to 13 Kung Fu clubs.

[TigerClaw]

Hang about, you're Tiger Claw's son aren't you?

No he is not my son.

[jubaji]

Wrong, everything Brian taught was combative, at least when he taught us, he knew many things and not just the things some claim he knew. You don't know what you are talking about there.

By the way I have not met many who could fight like he did.

How often did you fight him?

[JThorne]

When have I EVER came off as an ITG? Huh?

I have always freely admitted I was a amateur martial artist, and have never claimed anything otherwise.

You should check your facts, troll spawn.

actually I have read a number of your sad postings and you do come across as a bit of a smuck & a troll, look above at how you stoop to name calling, pathetic really.

The poster/member HuSanYan is right about the Internet Tough Guys on here, all talking like tough smucks.

You have offered no evidence or proof that you are a martial arts teacher. We have to just take you at your word?

why on Earth should the poster Tigerclaw have to prove anything to a whinger and moaner like you??

[jubaji]

Funny how a bunch of folks who have virtually never posted have 'suddenly' decided to chime in.

Hopefully they'll participate more.

[JadeDragon]

You have offered no evidence or proof that you are a martial arts teacher. We have to just take you at your word?

Whats it matter if he teaches or not and why does anyone have to prove anything on here? Him teaching has nothing to do with wheather or not his kung fu skills are good or not or even if his kung fu skills work in real life. So again I ask you....Why does it matter if he teaches or not?

[JadeDragon]

Okay, I teach also but what kind of proof can he provide to vouch for his claim? I couldn't proove that I teach either by posting something other than phone numbers of people that I teach. And even then you would have to call them to ask if I teach them.

[sunwukung]

why on Earth should the poster Tigerclaw have to prove anything to a whinger and moaner like you??

He doesn't, not at all. But if he wants his detractors to change their opinion of him, then he may have to. If this is not important to him, then I recommend he add all these users to his 'ignore' list and be happy with his own opinion.

[HuSanYan]

Pathetic Moaners

Because he is claiming he is a martial arts teacher, and wants us to respect him as one.
Hey, I can claim anything I want...but if I REFUSE to post any proof, then what?

what's it to a girl like you if he teaches or not???

Basically what we have here is a situation where a few people with not much better to do simply have a go at someone for the sake of being incredible pussies and moaners.

Tigerclaw seems to be reasonably genuine, what is the matter with you twats?

actually I have read a number of your sad postings and you do come across as a bit of a smuck & a troll, look above at how you stoop to name calling, pathetic really.

The poster/member HuSanYan is right about the Internet Tough Guys on here, all talking like tough smucks. why on Earth should the poster Tigerclaw have to prove anything to a whinger and moaner like you??

JThorne, couldn't have put it better myself.

[HuSanYan]

Fair Enough

He doesn't seem genuine to me at all. And not to a lot of other people here, either.

We have had many problems with people assuming fake indentities here, claiming this, that and the other thing. I guess it is not really hurting anyone, so our counter-claims should'nt hurt anyone else, either.

If your Dad is a real teacher, prove it. At least then we can RESPECTFULLY disagree with his theories.

I have to say that your comments are fair enough.
I come from the point of view of having been in real military combat so sometimes get carried away when I perceive (correctly or incorrectly) someone being picked on for no good reason by people who want to write things to appear tough.
Once again, I think your comments in your last post are perfectly fair.

[TigerClaw]

He doesn't seem genuine to me at all. And not to a lot of other people here, either.

We have had many problems with people assuming fake indentities here, claiming this, that and the other thing. I guess it is not really hurting anyone, so our counter-claims should'nt hurt anyone else, either.

If your Dad is a real teacher, prove it. At least then we can RESPECTFULLY disagree with his theories.

I have never assumed a fake identity. The real problem is with men like you who really do not have much experience in martial arts and who act as if they do and don't think twice about attempting to rebuke a kung fu teacher. But the troubling thing is that they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

I am as genuine as they come. My faith will not allow me to lie or be mean spirited or go about cursing and mocking as many here do. The moral truthful aspect of my life is far more important than my Kung Fu teaching.