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[Tant01]

Always the voice of reason...

This is a discussion board. And these vids are open for discussion.

The problem here pope is that you came in and accused this of being bad WC (I surmise because you were told by a fellow cronie that it was.)

You didn't ask what it was supposed to be you assumed what it was.

When that fell through you had to find something to not look foolish.

I never say hubud or knives in that vid.

This is begginer drills, simple stuff, it's not going to involve knife defense immediatley, nor did I say these drill inclued that.

That is your own fabrication and I'm sorry if you misunderstood me.

BTW saying "No disrespect" doesn't make saying disrespectful stuff any less disrespectful. No matter how many times you say.

Your tone has been critiscism and not question this whole discussion.

Well.. almost always! Probably one of the things I like best about you KOTF.

It would obviously be a complete different beast in the proverbial "real fight" but it doesn't take much of a brain to see the value in stepping off the line of attack WHILE getting your attachment to redirect the weapon (in this case a HAND)

Okay? I saw your foot checking in the wooden dummy set... didn't view all of this latest one yet but I have an idea where that leads.

Don't mind the critics. some of us appreciate your stuff.

[kingoftheforest]

Well.. almost always! Probably one of the things I like best about you KOTF.

It would obviously be a complete different beast in the proverbial "real fight" but it doesn't take much of a brain to see the value in stepping off the line of attack WHILE getting your attachment to redirect the weapon (in this case a HAND)

Okay? I saw your foot checking in the wooden dummy set... didn't view all of this latest one yet but I have an idea where that leads.

Don't mind the critics. some of us appreciate your stuff.

Oh trust me I'm not minding. Not when people who hate me most of the time like Mr. A and lovable jubs come to my defense. Shows I'm doing something right.

People will always choose the easier route of criticizing what they don't understand.

I'll keep posting as long as at least someone wants me too. The ignore button works on the crap that is really just crap.

What I don't understand is that these people must feel I'm a threat to waste time criticizing a system they don't know anything about.

That time would be better spent understanding the system they do use.

But I guess some people are masters of all MA's after a short period of time.

[jubaji]

This is a discussion board. And these vids are open for discussion.

The problem here pope is that you came in and accused this of being bad WC (I surmise because you were told by a fellow cronie that it was.)

You didn't ask what it was supposed to be you assumed what it was.

When that fell through you had to find something to not look foolish.

I never say hubud or knives in that vid.

This is begginer drills, simple stuff, it's not going to involve knife defense immediatley, nor did I say these drill inclued that.

That is your own fabrication and I'm sorry if you misunderstood me.

BTW saying "No disrespect" doesn't make saying disrespectful stuff any less disrespectful. No matter how many times you say.

Your tone has been critiscism and not question this whole discussion.

Oh, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait 'till he starts in with hundreds and hundreds of posts of nothing but "moo."

[jubaji]

But seriously, at least you have the balls to put your stuff out there. I respect that. And as I said before, I respect your dedication to martial arts. I like your compound where you and the other hippies train. it looks tranquil and pleasant, and the kind of place where you can be a good martial artist. I would like to see you get a nice haircut, though!

LOL! Agreed! If KOTF were to post a vid of him getting his head shaved I'd write a long, elaborate post in admiration of Boar.

[kingoftheforest]

LOL! Agreed! If KOTF were to post a vid of him getting his head shaved I'd write a long, elaborate post in admiration of Boar.

LOL. You guys and your antics.

[Tant01]

Cool...

Oh trust me I'm not minding. Not when people who hate me most of the time like Mr. A and lovable jubs come to my defense. Shows I'm doing something right.

People will always choose the easier route of criticizing what they don't understand.

I'll keep posting as long as at least someone wants me too.
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Someone does. I don't know jack about your style myself but I see many subtle things I recognize and appreciate. It seems "soft" to me but strangely familiar...

Thanks for sharing with us.

[kingoftheforest]

Someone does. I don't know jack about your style myself but I see many subtle things I recognize and appreciate. It seems "soft" to me but strangely familiar...
Thanks for sharing with us.

Give the man a cigar.

[WildWest.]

Oh, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait 'till he starts in with hundreds and hundreds of posts of nothing but "moo."

Moo?

[jubaji]

Moo?

You'll see...

[Da Pope]

"Ok that was the uh first exercise I did on the dummy and it was uh basically you side step............."


Maybe you should listen better.

Maybe you should....it has taken you quite awhile to come up with that but it aint what you say on the vid.....

"Ok that was the uh first exercise I did on the dummy and it was uh basically HUBUD you side step............."

you even give the camera a little look when you say it !!!!

C'Mon man its there on vid !!!

get a grip!!

[Da Pope]

This is a discussion board. And these vids are open for discussion.

The problem here pope is that you came in and accused this of being bad WC (I surmise because you were told by a fellow cronie that it was.)

You didn't ask what it was supposed to be you assumed what it was.

When that fell through you had to find something to not look foolish.

I never say hubud or knives in that vid.

This is begginer drills, simple stuff, it's not going to involve knife defense immediatley, nor did I say these drill inclued that.

That is your own fabrication and I'm sorry if you misunderstood me.

BTW saying "No disrespect" doesn't make saying disrespectful stuff any less disrespectful. No matter how many times you say.

Your tone has been critiscism and not question this whole discussion.

Ok initially I did come here because Abel said that you were doing Wing Chun and yes I fell for it.

I accept that you are not doing WC although your style does appear to have been influenced by it.

So I moved onto something else that was bothering me, something that I felt was a concern. So as much as there is a love fest going on here why is it bad to bring up concerns?

As some people have said "....well its just an atribute drill" I get that but my point is that drilling in something over and over that is potentially dangerous is a dangerous thing.

I was hoping we could discuss this but it seems that there is a very touchy hair trigger mentality when somebody mentions the elephant in the room.

So again, you do actually mention hubud in that first vid...no matter how you are now bizzarely trying to distance yourself from something that is recorded for everyone to hear. That is why I brought the knife thing up. In my experience of FMA I have never done any hubud drill (yes see I too know its a drill) that couldnt be used with a knife as well as empty hand.

Just to make my position clear to the easily offended, my intention is to talk about this as I will probably learn something as well........

[Da Pope]

tread lightly gentlemen...

Gently gently

[kingoftheforest]

Maybe you should....it has taken you quite awhile to come up with that but it aint what you say on the vid.....

"Ok that was the uh first exercise I did on the dummy and it was uh basically HUBUD you side step............."

you even give the camera a little look when you say it !!!!

C'Mon man its there on vid !!!

get a grip!!

Until you can get over the fact that this is not what I said this discussion isn't going to move forward.

You are on ignore. I'm not going to argue with you about what I said like a pair of 5 year olds.

If this is your mentality then a discussion with you is fruitless anyway.

Not to mention the fact that its a vid and it obvious that is NOT what I'm saying.

Go back to Bullshido and continue to pretend to be the expert you are not. Have fun laughing at this with your buddies and move on with your life.

[Da Pope]

Not claiming to be an expert on anything. In fact I came here to gain more information.

If your ego is truly that fragile that you cant discuss your style with anybody except people who agree with anything you say, then thats a shame.

[Da Pope]

I can always tell if someone is better at something then I am, and you are. Doesn't mean I agree with everything you do, or that I am into the same style as you, or even that I like the same style you do....but I respect my betters.

What I don't respect are arrogant braggarts..and unfortunately, there are MANY of those on all the martial arts forums. Sometimes their bragging results in a meet-up, and then POW!!! EAR-GRIND!!

Me, I don't brag. 99% of you could probably kick my ass...except Uke. His breath would probably kill me before his deadly skilz would! And that Jubaji? I would NEVER want to meet any wrestler in a dark alley, especially him. Knife wielding suplexes or not, wrestlers are notoriously tough, strong and crafty!!!!

But seriously, at least you have the balls to put your stuff out there. I respect that. And as I said before, I respect your dedication to martial arts. I like your compound where you and the other hippies train. it looks tranquil and pleasant, and the kind of place where you can be a good martial artist. I would like to see you get a nice haircut, though!

Well if thats a dig at me for critiquing his vid then its misplaced. I dont claim to be the master of any MA. I am a humble student with an inquiring mind. It seems though that certain avenues of inquirey are not acceptable.....