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Originally posted by Tant01 View PostDon't confuse his style with someone who will stand in front of his attacker! If I'm not mistaking the whole idea of his "soft" attachment and the leg checking (jamming) is to limit his attacker's mobility while maintaining his own, smother his (attacker's) attack while delivering his own...
In theory it is all very simple.Ideally you will end up behind your attacker with a nice strangle, joint or bone destruction or stomping.
Good stuff! ...reminds me of silat!
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Originally posted by Tant01 View PostDon't confuse his style with someone who will stand in front of his attacker! If I'm not mistaking the whole idea of his "soft" attachment and the leg checking (jamming) is to limit his attacker's mobility while maintaining his own, smother his (attacker's) attack while delivering his own...
In theory it is all very simple.Ideally you will end up behind your attacker with a nice strangle, joint or bone destruction or stomping.
Good stuff! ...reminds me of silat!
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Originally posted by Mr. AriesonYou know what I would like to see Videos of, King? Typical self defense situations...maybe filmed outside, and perhaps using someone you can bash around a bit (perhaps best not to use your wife for that?) If you could film a scenario, it would be appreciated by the literal minded types (like me) who enjoy seeing the entire application from start to finish. I know there are a few on the internet, but it would be cool to see them from someone we know!
One self defense application I don't see much about, is the technique used when one of these "gang monkey"s fight...(like you see on so many school fight videos)...you know, the untrained attacked launching numerous haymakers at his target, in rapid succession.
My instructor taught me that the best defense is a front step-kick to the lower mid-section. In his words, you will probably still get "scathed" by a few errant shots, but you can neutralize the attack by just driving straight through. That's one way, but I would be interested in seeing your approach.
I cite this example because time and time again, watching brawls on film you see these types of attacks. The guy attacks, haymakers one after another and just devastates the other person due to sheer volume of blows.
Most martial arts techniques I traditionally learned were based on one punch or kick or hold or grab coming at you, not a flurry of haymakers coming from both arms of your attacker, and coming FAST like they do in a real fight.
There are numerous ways to defend yourself with not one really being superior because it's the result that matters i.e. you surviving and your attacker losing.
I like to close the distance rendering his strikes ineffectual as he needs the space to lanuch and connect with them. Remember there are 3 things needed for effective strikes: Grounding, Distance and Torque If you take away one of those things from your opponent, his strikes will become ineffectual.
By closing the gap....and when you do this it's obviously a good idea to have a covering guard, lead with one hand and jam his strikes at his shoulder level and move in with palm/elbow strikes or use a grappling move if that's your speciality. Doing this takes away your opponents distance needed for his strikes. Try hitting someone when they have you wrapped up tight....yes you can hit him but can you hurt him?
Alternatively, you can keep your distance, get off his line of attack, weave under the strikes into a takedown or run away among others.
Mr A. with regards to the side step front kick, I would be reluctant to kick at all in a street fight as I need my grounding in order to effectively strike my opponent and maintain balance. I realise a front kick is pretty simple in the greater scheme of things but I would prefer to not risk it as opposed to keeping both feet on the ground and using hands/elbows instead.
Without video it's hard to explain but the more your practice having someone fling haymakers at you, the more comfortable you become. Get a training partner to put on a pair of 18oz gloves and go nuts.....it's good fun!
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Ty.
Originally posted by kingoftheforest View PostVery observant. I don't think I could have explained it better.Originally posted by TTEscrima View PostGood eye, well read.
Please... I have no idea what I'm talking about? you guys might make folks start thinking I have a clue?
We don't want that!
LOL
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Originally posted by WildWest. View PostWe practice defending against such punches a lot because they are a common tool used by the untrained.
There are numerous ways to defend yourself with not one really being superior because it's the result that matters i.e. you surviving and your attacker losing.
I like to close the distance rendering his strikes ineffectual as he needs the space to lanuch and connect with them. Remember there are 3 things needed for effective strikes: Grounding, Distance and Torque If you take away one of those things from your opponent, his strikes will become ineffectual.
By closing the gap....and when you do this it's obviously a good idea to have a covering guard, lead with one hand and jam his strikes at his shoulder level and move in with palm/elbow strikes or use a grappling move if that's your speciality. Doing this takes away your opponents distance needed for his strikes. Try hitting someone when they have you wrapped up tight....yes you can hit him but can you hurt him?
Alternatively, you can keep your distance, get off his line of attack, weave under the strikes into a takedown or run away among others.
Mr A. with regards to the side step front kick, I would be reluctant to kick at all in a street fight as I need my grounding in order to effectively strike my opponent and maintain balance. I realise a front kick is pretty simple in the greater scheme of things but I would prefer to not risk it as opposed to keeping both feet on the ground and using hands/elbows instead.
We use a similar technique also. I showed a simple form called the dive in the vid in the Master Wong thread if I'm not mistaken.
You move into the opponent covering yourself and take away his "root" or as you called it grounding.
This also removes the room your opponent needs to attack thus smothering him.
If your not apt to kick you can come down on the opponents foot, pinning it to the ground, as you continue to press forward, stealing his root even more, and possibly toppling him over backwards.
I don't really like the moving away option because it gives your opponent a chance to get another shot in. In what we do at least, you always want to exhibit forward pressure or move around your opponent, but always in close.
Otherwise I agree with most of what WW suggest.
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Originally posted by Da Pope View PostConcerns.....LOL just a few!!!
I'll start with the questions first though....if you dont mind.
How long have you been doing Wing Chun?
Who taught you?
Do you have any students? If so do you charge them?
FYI :
I have been training WC for 7 years my lineage is Ip Man > Ip Chun > Colin Ward > me
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Originally posted by kingoftheforest View PostNothing wrong with my ego, just plenty wrong with your hearing.
Nobody tried to pass the vid in question off as WC or knife defense or hubud.
And if you are part of Eargrinds crew I doubt you came in here with honorable intentions, or the idea that you were doing anything but ridiculing someone.
Your group is well known around the internet for that type of thing.
Humble your not that's for sure. You made your self look like a fool 2 times in one thread. Bow out and save face since your other attempts have only landed you on your face.
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Yo King...a few questions...
1) where did you get those Indian Clubs ...
2) is that dummy home-made? how much did it end up costing you and where did you pick up the materials?
3) I really liked the bag work...those all Chinese style strikes? I liked the flow and rythm of them, I really feel like putting some of those in with my thai.
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