Abir Warrior Arts

[kingoftheforest]

I was happy to avoid your beef adn TTE's Dale. I said once before I was done butting heads with you.

You obviously don't understand simple rules of any martial Art.

Try to limit your enemies numbers.

You also make claims to people about hiding behind the web. I got vids on youtube too buddy. I posted them on here too.

That's pretty public.

However you make claims to "floor" people you have never seen or met.

Charging in head long without sizing up your opponent.

You yell "slander", and "liable"!. Which is mostly a scarecrow in a cornfield.

TTE has posted hard evidence to what he is calling bullshit on.

Can you provide evidence to the contrary? It shouldn't be hard.

Or are we playing the "I'm too good for that, waste of my time card."?


I can't buy that if so, from some one who argues vehemently, but only with accusations and no explanations.

If you can't prove what TTE is saying is false then you have learned some simple MA techniques.

1. Pounding your fists on things.

2. Yelling.

I'm asking for proof TTE is wrong quite civilly, so I hope your response isn't full of "keyboard heroes", and tiny ego accusations.

I don't feel what I am asking is outrageous considering it should be fairly simple, if what TTE claims isn't true.

[TTEscrima]

If this guy wasn't so obvious/hilarious, I imagine his Bullshido thread would have gotten more serious attention.

You mean like the attention John Painter got on Bullshido?



Bagua bodyguard, stuntman, cop etc. Dr John Painter PhD, ND

Bagua bodyguard, stuntman, cop etc. Dr John Painter PhD, ND - No BS MMA and Martial Arts


I'm tired of the subject so I'm done but in closure, No one cares if Painter or his students can fight...the objection is to calling it Baqua when there is no traceable lineage or record of his style before Painter, the objection is to his moving people without touching them and calling it Baqua, the objection is to the titles and uniforms used to market himself, the whole package reflects badly on Baqua and the CMA's in general.

[DaleDugas]

It seems we have two cowardly individuals here who feel the need to slander and libel both me and my teacher.

You both hide behind the internet and snipe at people, rather than step up and be adults about this.

You post up posts from other sites, claim that Im selling herbal formulas I received from Dr. Painter, and go on and on without once posting up website, contact, or martial arts school information about yourselves.

It seems between the two of you, you do not have once ounce of spine, testicular fortitude, nor plain old guts to publically state who you are while you slander and libel others.

I find that rather pathetic.

KOTF has never met my teacher yet takes other peoples word that he is what they say they are. KOTF you are a poor excuse of an intelligent human in doing so.

Keep hiding gentlemen. Or you can post up where you teach, live, and let people come to you and see if you can actually cash all these checks your mouths are writing.

I make myself known, as well as accountable for my actions on the internet. I sign my posts with my real name and contact information. That is what a real man does.

Good luck with life, gentlemen, the two of you are seriously go to need it.

[kingoftheforest]

It seems we have two cowardly individuals here who feel the need to slander and libel both me and my teacher.

You both hide behind the internet and snipe at people, rather than step up and be adults about this.

You post up posts from other sites, claim that Im selling herbal formulas I received from Dr. Painter, and go on and on without once posting up website, contact, or martial arts school information about yourselves.

It seems between the two of you, you do not have once ounce of spine, testicular fortitude, nor plain old guts to publically state who you are while you slander and libel others.

I find that rather pathetic.

KOTF has never met my teacher yet takes other peoples word that he is what they say they are. KOTF you are a poor excuse of an intelligent human in doing so.

Keep hiding gentlemen. Or you can post up where you teach, live, and let people come to you and see if you can actually cash all these checks your mouths are writing.

I make myself known, as well as accountable for my actions on the internet. I sign my posts with my real name and contact information. That is what a real man does.

Good luck with life, gentlemen, the two of you are seriously go to need it.

Just what I expected and predicted.

No proof that these things aren't true.

Just more actual slander, as well as ignornace.

I'm unintelligent, yet you show yours clearly by stating that WE are cowards.


Just a quick FYI. Several people from the site have come and trained with us.

Even LEO's and military, as well as internet security groups tell you:


Don't use your real name on the internet.


It was nice educating you Dale, and watching you prove me right.

Since you refuse to show proof that TTE was wrong.

And only you seem to be making false allegations about people, and avoid answering the real substantial questions, and scream lawsuit like it's some protective barrier, I have no further time for you.

You were offered a simple way to take the high road and yet you show you have no taste for decorum or clearing up this "slander".

Have a good life with your anger and hate and disillusion.


I'm done "discussing" anything with you Dale.

Continue to avoid answering the legitimate questions asked of you, and just keep calling names.

KOTF

[TTEscrima]

You post up posts from other sites, claim that Im selling herbal formulas I received from Dr. Painter, and go on and on without once posting up website, contact, or martial arts school information about yourselves.

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Dale I was confused by the wording of your add, If you didn't receive the formulas from Painter, fine, my misunderstanding, I apologize. Seeing them under the banner of his style along with the statement they were manufactured by you, left me under a misconception, I apologize.

As for you and your skills, they may well be awesome, Painter has skills as well, just not what I have ever seen from any other Baqua lineage's Master.

That's secondary to the titles, uniforms and most importantly the videos of him moving people without touching them. You posted those videos, I asked you about it and you responded by challenging me, you've never addressed any of the questions I asked. I asked you about lineage, his titles etc. You never once offered an answer, always a challenge to fight as though that validated his videos of moving people without touching them as part of Baqua.

I posted the links to show I'm far from the only one asking these questions after visiting the Gompa over the years or buying his videos and getting a guy in military uniform and Beret introducing himself as Capt Painter.

I've never met you, and I'm really not interested, (unless you can show me how to move people by waving your hands in the air with no contact). Nor do I have the time to to continue debating the issue with you... you believe in and like what you're doing so enjoy it.

I've been planning a trip for years, I'm finally retired and in a position to travel, so as the song goes...I'm leaving on a jet plane...don't know when I'll be back again...

I don't like to jinx things so I keep them to myself until they come to pass, well it's here. I'm headed back to some of my favorite places I visited in the Navy Island hopping until I hit the one that feels like home...that means you've read my last post. I'm sure you'll be filled with joy, as I am that I'm on the road again.


With that, Tom, Tant, its been fun.

[Da Pope]

Would you try and punch him in the face while he was doing that with the sword in his hand?

Not being sarcastic just seriously curious.


Also could you do movement that fast with a live blade and not cut yourself.

No would you?

And secondly that sword he uses wouldnt last the first couple of strikes against something made out of proper sword steel!!!!!!

[kingoftheforest]

No would you?

And secondly that sword he uses wouldnt last the first couple of strikes against something made out of proper sword steel!!!!!!

No I wouldn't.


The object behind good sword fighting is that you don't clash swords, you avoid the other guys and strike him.

Clashing swords is a huge no no in actual good sword fighting.

Notice I said good not TV.

[Da Pope]

Agreed but I would rather have sword cover and try and avoid rather than just try and avoid, I'm just not that quick.

His fast swinging is more to do with him using a wushu flexi-sword than him having good technique isnt it?

I practice daily with 1 kg (about 2lbs) carbon steel live blades and can get a bit of speed up with controlled strikes. I can get faster but with much less control. That sword he is using probably wieghs about 1 lbs? Its not difficult to get the speed he has with that sort of wieght especially if your not concerned about control. Try it!

[jubaji]

What exactly do you train, Wingnut?

[Da Pope]

Arnis and recently started Niten Ichi Ryu.

Given up on Wing Chun for the moment.

Oh yeah and I'm starting Judo next week.........wooooooohooooooooooooo

What about you Unk? You were really into wrestling werent you? What other MAs?

[jubaji]

Still and always a wrestler. That occupies the majority of my training time. I dabble with some other stuff and devote one day a week to Eishin Ryu Iaido.


Enjoy the judo, I think you'll like it.

[Da Pope]

The dojo I go to for the Niten also does Eishin Ryu Iaido. They spend an hour on the Iaido then an hour on the Niten Ichi. although I went there specifically for the Niten stuff I am quite enjoying the Iaido.

By the way the reason I'm doing Judo is down to something you (Unky) said years ago about trying different martial arts out to see if they suit you or not. So far I have been to a few that just plain suck but have found two skools so far (the above mentioned Dojo and the Arnis skool) that have stuck. Hopefully the Judo one will, I have always liked the look of Judo.

[jubaji]

The dojo I go to for the Niten also does Eishin Ryu Iaido. They spend an hour on the Iaido then an hour on the Niten Ichi. although I went there specifically for the Niten stuff I am quite enjoying the Iaido.

By the way the reason I'm doing Judo is down to something you (Unky) said years ago about trying different martial arts out to see if they suit you or not. So far I have been to a few that just plain suck but have found two skools so far (the above mentioned Dojo and the Arnis skool) that have stuck. Hopefully the Judo one will, I have always liked the look of Judo.

Good way, good way. I still pop in to a practice of tae kwon do every now and again even though I hate it and suck at it. You gotta mix it up or you start to grow moss.

[Da Pope]

The object behind good sword fighting is that you don't clash swords, you avoid the other guys and strike him.

Clashing swords is a huge no no in actual good sword fighting.

Notice I said good not TV.

Been pondering this and it just dont work for me. If that guy was comming at me with his flexi-sword flayelling around like that I would most definitley clash swords with him.

How could you avoid it?

It seems it would be the safest thing to do no?

Arent swords defensive as well as offensive?

And with that in mind how long do think that flimsy weapon woudl last against annealed carbon steel?

Or how do you think that would distrupt his flow considering how little actual control he is displaying?

[kingoftheforest]

Been pondering this and it just dont work for me. If that guy was comming at me with his flexi-sword flayelling around like that I would most definitley clash swords with him.

How could you avoid it?

It seems it would be the safest thing to do no?

Arent swords defensive as well as offensive?

And with that in mind how long do think that flimsy weapon woudl last against annealed carbon steel?

Or how do you think that would distrupt his flow considering how little actual control he is displaying?

So of he's avoiding your sword, and your trying to hit his. And his is all flexible, you just wasted a chance to hit him by trying to strike his sword.

His "flexi-sword would just fold and pop back off your sword, and now he has an advantageous position, if he avoids your sword, and you just wasted an ass load of energy and a chance to end the fight.

You don't clash swords. Swords were and still are pretty damn expensive for good ones. Even good swords can only absorb so much impact.

What happens when your sword eventually shatters in your face while trying to block.

Then you get to eat your sword and your opponents.

You wouldn't have very much time to ponder the f*ck up, I'm sure.