Chinese arts and grappling?

[Laura]

Are there any Chinese fighting arts that are on par with Judo and BJJ?

[jubaji]

China's got some pretty good wrestlers, and their national team has really improved in recent years.

[jonbey]

There are certainly Chinese styles that use grappling and locks, but generally part of a "system" than includes just about every way to fight, so not sure if on par. Often this method is called chin na, so if you are looking to learn a Chinese style that teaches grappling, look for schools that mentioned chin na and ask the instructor if they teach it often or once a year.

Here is a book on Google that has more information on the subject (first 25 or so pages shown): Chin Na Fa: Traditional Chinese ... - Google Books

[jubaji]

Chin na is not a "style"

[jonbey]

you're right, poor choice of word for a martial arts forum. Method would be better. Technique?

[shaolin-warrior]

Chin na is joint locks and throws but you will find little in the white tiger techniques that resembles or is equal to BJJ, or modern day grappling. Chinese Kempo does infuse jiu jitsu, white tiger chin na and boxing together for a more complete cirriculum. Good luck finding a good chinese kempo school. I live in Connecticut and the closest is in New York.

[jonbey]

I like the definition in that book on google:

The original names of Chin Na Fa were the "Art of Separating the Tendons".

After damaging my Achilles a few months ago (still not good) all I can say is - OUCH!

[sifuabel]

Its of matter of intent. There are a few styles that have specialties in locks such as eagle claw. But the end intent is different. Most CMA styles that have locks in them use those locks to control temporarily. Mostly to further hitting the opponent or bring the opponent to a prone position to throw him away from you. All the while trying to retain mobility on the feet. Whereas judo and BJJ throw or take down with the intent of continuing to smother the opponent on the ground and lead to a more damaging lock.

[RAB]

There is shuai jiao which is a form of jacket wrestling. There is Mongolian wrestling which is a form of back hold wrestling. Chin na is focuses on small joint manipulation.

[jubaji]

Its of matter of intent. There are a few styles that have specialties in locks such as eagle claw. But the end intent is different. Most CMA styles that have locks in them use those locks to control temporarily. Mostly to further hitting the opponent or bring the opponent to a prone position to throw him away from you. All the while trying to retain mobility on the feet. Whereas judo and BJJ throw or take down with the intent of continuing to smother the opponent on the ground and lead to a more damaging lock.

Or an ear gouge...

[blueseen]

Is there anyone who can tell me that which sword is used mostly by Chinese in martial arts.I have enough information about the Japanese martial arts,their tactics ,training etc but don't know much about chinese

[kingoftheforest]

Is there anyone who can tell me that which sword is used mostly by Chinese in martial arts.I have enough information about the Japanese martial arts,their tactics ,training etc but don't know much about chinese

There are lots of swords in CMA's you'd have to narrow the discipline down that you are interested in.

[jubaji]

Is there anyone who can tell me that which sword is used mostly by Chinese in martial arts.I have enough information about the Japanese martial arts,their tactics ,training etc but don't know much about chinese

There are many, but this is really not the thread for it.

[kingoftheforest]

There are many, but this is really not the thread for it.

Buzz kill.

[jubaji]

Buzz kill.

I mean, let's discuss it!