Chinese Boxing defeats Muay Thai!

[TracyKarate]

How can a kickboxing match give you the opportunity to try new things out when you are limited to only using a few different punches and a few different kicks? There is no reason to get angry, and the topics do "evolve" from the original message at times. More than a few people expressed surprise that muay thai was beaten by a style other than jujustu. My point is that it should come as no surprise because it is overrated.

[Szczepankiewicz]

Angry? I'm not angry. But thanks for the compassionate concern.

The day I get angry over chatting on the internet is the day I sell my computers....

Trying new things... new combinations are always coming up. How many ways can you throw a punch, a kick, and mix in different foot work. We have a technique we call the ax heel kick. It is only one kick, but so far we have charted 17 different methods of performing that single kick. And that is not including the infinate possibility of varaitions when adding in a new technique.

As for evolving, yes. As we have evolved into a new thread already. But I would have to say that we are WAY OFF TOPIC as well.

[TracyKarate]

Yes, a kick you will never, ever be attacked with in real life--regardless of how many infinite "methods" you have conjured up for it. The bottom line is sportive arts only deal with, as you said, certain types of attacks--and then different variations of those attacks. They neglect the unpredictability and wild nature of a real life attacker. The last time I heard of someone being attacked on the news, they were not atacked with a variation of an axe heel kick or spinning back fist. It was a brick from behind.
I am only saying that to be truly confident that you can defend yourself, there are more direct methods to achieve that goal.

[TracyKarate]

As long as we are speaking about martial arts, we are not off topic.

[Szczepankiewicz]

How do I go about getting more confident with my ability to defend myself?

[TracyKarate]

By breaking free of the limitations you have put on yourself by focusing on competition rather than street attacks. Train with an instructor that knows how to properly defend against knife attacks, tackles, groin kicks, head locks--learn from someone who can teach you how to properly gouge a man's eyes, attack key sensitive areas, use more than just your hands as feet as weapons. There are many many ways to stop an attacker that do not invlove a punching or kicking combination.

[Qkfx]

shhhhhhhhhh

more of that, "if I could only gouge your eyes you'ld see the strength of my style" crap. I've realized there is nothing much you can say to these guys, they're simply humurous.

[Szczepankiewicz]

So am I to assume that training for competition is just a waste of my time and effort?


Have you ever used any eye-gouges or pressure point strikes, or any non hand/foot strikes in a real defensive situation?

[Szczepankiewicz]

What are the limitations I put on myself when I am training for compeititon?

Would that include the no eye gouging, throat strikes, head strikes, pressure point activity that are common in almost every form of competition? Am I on the right track here?

[E1am]

Originally posted by TracyKarate
a man's ... key sensitive areas

I think you mean erogenous zones.

[hounddog]

E1am - Now that you're back in Seattle where are you working now?

Nevermind, just saw the other thread.

[TracyKarate]

If you want to be ignorant, that is your choice to make. It does however show your maturity levels in your inability to state your points using facts instead of trying to insult me for a cheap laugh.

[JaredExtreme]

the video

While we're talking about eye gouging and that other cheap $hit, do you guys remember the video of some Kung Fu guy putting up $5000 in a challenge match against a BJJ dood? Remember what happened when the Kung Fu master was sidemounted and started eye gouching the BJJ guy? The Master got armlocked, the BJJ didn't let go (despite being gouged), and the Kung Fu guy got his arm broken. So, I think the fight is a good example of not to rely on a few simple techniques like gouges or pressure point strikes, which are SO effective on the streets.

[TracyKarate]

The mere fact that you can state an eye gouge is ineffective in the street is utterly ridiculous. Of course it won't get you anywhere when someone has you in an armlock, at that point it is too late. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.
It is amazing how such an "extreme" (pardon the pun) focus on competetive/sportive martial arts can cloud the mind.
It's also interesting how those most unwilling to see any other view outside of their own also have the most foul language.

[JaredExtreme]

Tracy, I understand you're a troller, so this is the last time I'll respond to you on this thread. But let me ask you this. Since you claim that eye gouges are so effective, how many times have you seen them used in a fight? Or better yet, how many fights have you actually seen? Imaginary fights in kata don't count lil missy. As for my mind being clouded by competitive martial arts, you're wrong again. I have 3 years of non-competitive Karate experience, AND 8 months of competitive BJJ. So I have knowledge in both areas. I AM open to outside ideas, just not when they're completely ludicrous.