Ngo Cho Kun

[Suhana LIM]

all inventions originate in the imagination.
Suhana LIM, perhaps if you were to set up a PO Box, I could send you a box of tissues to wipe your crying tears. you seem to be crying like a little boy about something

Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
There is too much exaggeration, myth-making and outright fabrication in martial arts today. So many postings in the forums sometimes more like kungfu comics. I've read quite a lot. But I have to compliment you, because so far you are the best. They are full of imaginations and make believe stuffs.
I have to salute you for that. Not many people have that sort of talent. To be honest, I am beginning to like them that I've printed and keep them as "collections." Some of my friends like them, they said it's even better than Ninja Turtle.


Whenever I need something related to legend, myth, imagination, non sober articles of course they will be my first priority.Once again thank you very much for giving me light refreshments, sad, hilarious, and other mixed emotions for the past few days.

In the mean time, I prefer dealing with something real, not imaginative, something true not exaggeration, something in this world not in the dream world. THAT'S WHY THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I REPLY YOUR POSTING. No hard feeling I hope. If there is a competition for the best martial arts comics, sure I will nominate you.
Btw, I don't have Post Box. But if you are honest and really meant it, please send a box of tissue (that you plan to give me) as a donation to any charity in your area. For your articles, a box of tissue is not enough, I need a big towel to "cover" such a big imaginations. Have a nice day dreaming.

[HuSanYan]

Once again thank you very much for giving me light refreshments, sad, hilarious, and other mixed emotions for the past few days.

you are welcome, if you ever need any counselling, Hu San Yan is your man.

[Suhana LIM]

Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
There is too much exaggeration, myth-making and outright fabrication in martial arts today. So many postings in the forums sometimes more like kungfu comics. I've read quite a lot. But I have to compliment you, because so far you are the best. They are full of imaginations and make believe stuffs.
I have to salute you for that. Not many people have that sort of talent. To be honest, I am beginning to like them that I've printed and keep them as "collections." Some of my friends like them, they said it's even better than Ninja Turtle.


Whenever I need something related to legend, myth, imagination, non sober articles of course they will be my first priority.Once again thank you very much for giving me light refreshments, sad, hilarious, and other mixed emotions for the past few days.

In the mean time, I prefer dealing with something real, not imaginative, something true not exaggeration, something in this world not in the dream world. THAT'S WHY THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I REPLY YOUR POSTING. No hard feeling I hope. If there is a competition for the best martial arts comics, sure I will nominate you.
Btw, I don't have Post Box. But if you are honest and really meant it, please send a box of tissue (that you plan to give me) as a donation to any charity in your area. For your articles, a box of tissue is not enough, I need a big towel to "cover" such a big imaginations. Have a nice day dreaming.

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[Suhana LIM]

Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
There is too much exaggeration, myth-making and outright fabrication in martial arts today. So many postings in the forums sometimes more like kungfu comics. I've read quite a lot. But I have to compliment you, because so far you are the best. They are full of imaginations and make believe stuffs.
I have to salute you for that. Not many people have that sort of talent. To be honest, I am beginning to like them that I've printed and keep them as "collections." Some of my friends like them, they said it's even better than Ninja Turtle.


Whenever I need something related to legend, myth, imagination, non sober articles of course they will be my first priority.Once again thank you very much for giving me light refreshments, sad, hilarious, and other mixed emotions for the past few days.

In the mean time, I prefer dealing with something real, not imaginative, something true not exaggeration, something in this world not in the dream world. THAT'S WHY THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I REPLY YOUR POSTING. No hard feeling I hope. If there is a competition for the best martial arts comics, sure I will nominate you.
Btw, I don't have Post Box. But if you are honest and really meant it, please send a box of tissue (that you plan to give me) as a donation to any charity in your area. For your articles, a box of tissue is not enough, I need a big towel to "cover" such a big imaginations. Have a nice day dreaming.

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[HuSanYan]

The History of Ngo Cho Kun

Ngo Cho Kun History

Ngo cho kun is one of the most popular styles of kung-fu hailing from
Fukien province, China. (The style is known as ngo cho kun in the Amoy
dialect; in Mandarin, it is known as wu chu chuan) . Long the pride of
Fukien province, ngo cho kun has since spread to other Asian countries
including Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam. Burma, Indonesia, the Philip-
pines, Japan, and Hong Kong.
During the Chinese revolution, many of the top kung-fu masters fled
their homeland, emigrating to various countries in Southeast Asia. In the
Philippines, the renowned ngo cho kun masters have made their mark.

SIJO CHUA GIOK BENG

The roots of ngo cho kun can be traced to Sijo Chua Kiam, also known
as Giok Beng and I-Ho. Chua Giok Beng was born in 1853, in Fukien
province, amidst the turmoil of the declining years of the Ching dynasty
(1644-19 1 1). He lived in the village of Pan Be, a few miles from the city
of Chuan Chiu. Raised in a wealthy family, Beng's parents were engaged
in the sauce manufacturing business. They owned a sauce garden, which
is where Chinese food is processed by immersing it in a salty sauce.
Despite the business's increasing prosperity over the years, Beng's heart
was with the practice of kung-fu. To him, material and monetary gain was
secondary to the practice of martial arts. Beng's intense desire to learn
kung-fu led him to be accepted as a pupil of venerated master Ho Yang,
a native of Honan province. Beng's lessons were conducted in the sauce garden,
thus enabling him to utilize his time efficiently. When Ho Yang
died of old age, it was Chua Giok Beng who escorted Yang's remains to
his hometown province of Honan. On his journey back) Beng took the
hard route; he wandered throughout China for ten solid years, continu-
ously searching for new techniques and ideas, practicing and combining
them until he created a composite style of kung-fu which he considered
the perfect fighting art. This style is ngo cho kun, or "fists of the five
ancestors.
In creating his new style, Beng combined the five distinctive techniques
from the five styles peho (Fukien white crane), kao kun (monkey boxing),
Tai Cho (grand ancestor boxing), Iohan (internal Buddhist boxing)) and
tat chun (Tamo's iron-body training) . The peho style consists of a vari-
ety of hand techniques. Ngo cho kun's hand movements, arm move-
ments, and finger strikes often resemble the wings of a crane, as they are
patterned after peho techniques. The kao kun style offers ngo cho kun
many evasive tactics such as jumping, dodging, and dropping into low,
squatting stances. The palm strikes of kao kun are likewise incorporated
into ngo cho kun. The Tai Cho style was named after Sung Tai Cho, first
emperor of the northern Sung dynasty (A.D. 960). He reportedly prac-
ticed a system that featured numerous jumping, sweeping, and scissors-
kick attacks. These same leg techniques are a part of advanced ngo cho
kun training. The lohan style is an internal kung-fu system, relying on
short steps that serve as the basis for ngo cho kun's footwork. It is also
recognized as the original form of Shaolin boxing. Finally, the tat chun
style forms the basis of ngo cho kun's iron-body training. The Indian
monk Tamo introduced the Muscle Changing Classics (Yak Kun Kieng, in
Fukien; Yi Chin Ching, in Mandarin) and the marrow washing exercises
(swe che kieng, in Fukien; shi sui ching, in Mandarin) to the monks at the
Shaolin Temple. These exercises were adapted to condition the ngo cho
kun practitioner's body.
After spending his entire fortune on his odyssey through China, Beng
returned home, Not surprisingly, the family business, with nobody to
attend to it, had closed. Dispassionate over the loss of material wealth,
Beng concentrated his body and mind on the study of kung-fu. He
opened a kung-fu school called Lin Gi Tong (Hall of Humanity) . On its
door hung a sign which read: "Gentlemen, Iet us study the way of sam
chien, and warrior, please observe my ngo ki lat (five parts power)." In
addition to teaching kung-fu, Beng also made use of his medical kuowl-
edge by offering his services to the community. As was the custom, many
masters from different schools came to challenge and test Beng's art. The
Sijo went undefeated, becorning so well-known in his region that he soon
earned the moniker Mua Lo Hiong (Popular all the Way) .
Chua Giok Beng was a man of peculiar character-unworldly, and dis-
interested in the glitter of riches and wealth. To Chua Giok Beng, kung-
fu was the heart and soul of being. In his forties, Beng had passed the
government test for bu siu chai (a post in the military) with flying colors.
This examination tested one's expertise in shooting arrows while astride
a running horse. Instead of accepting a position in the government, Beng
chose to continue his pursuit of kung-fu. This was during the decline of
the Ching dynasty. Since corruption was rampant in the government,
Beng felt he could not compromise his integrity. Instead, he rose to
greater heights in the field of kung-fu and became well known for his pat
wat (eight methods deadly technique) .
Sijo Chua Giok Beng was also an expert in both the iron palm (ti sha
chiong) and light body (kin gung; methods. It is said that he could effort-
lessly leap to the roof of a two-story house in a single bound. As a result
Sijo Chuo
and many masters of other styles came to study under him, consequent-
ly incorporating ngo cho kun into their respective styles. Anyone who had
a specific ability in kung-fu was welcomed by Beng and invited to stay in
his house. Beng's house in Pan Be had no doors, only windows-anyone
POSsessing the ability to jump from the ground to the window of his
house, was welcomed as an honored guest.
In his last years Beng was a nomad, wandering from one place to the
next. Shunning materialism, he dressed in ragged clothes. If Beng
received new clothes or money, he offered them to the destitute, making
him a philanthropist of sorts.
In Chuan Chiu, Chua Giok Beng's first students became known as the
"Ten Tigers of Ngo Cho Kun." They included Kiu Lu of Chuan Chiu
(also known as Kao Sai), Yu Chiok Sam of Kuan Kio, Wei Bun Pa (also
known as Wan Tian Pa), Lok Te Kim Kao, Bicho Seller, Phoenix Hand
Ho Hai Sai, Tan Tao Sai, Hong Kiao Sai of Ching Yong, Kua Chai Hun
Sai, and Tan Kiong Beng Sai (also known as Golden Wings Tai Peng) .
Each became famous in their own right, some for their specialty techniques, others for their extraordinary feats.They were held in high esteem
and revered.Thus, people from the nearby regions came to study under
them.

(was taken from the great writings of Big Fat Uncle HuSanYan-Fukien Province, Red China. Registered Trademark, Copywrited 2004)

[SanShou]

some very interesting information HuSanYan, great post.

[joedoe]

Actually, it looks remarkably like some of the stuff that Alexander Co has written. If not him, then probably someone of the Filipino lineage.

[Suhana LIM]

Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
There is too much exaggeration, myth-making and outright fabrication in martial arts today. So many postings in the forums sometimes more like kungfu comics. I've read quite a lot. But I have to compliment you, because so far you are the best. They are full of imaginations and make believe stuffs.
I have to salute you for that. Not many people have that sort of talent. To be honest, I am beginning to like them that I've printed and keep them as "collections." Some of my friends like them, they said it's even better than Ninja Turtle.


Whenever I need something related to legend, myth, imagination, non sober articles of course they will be my first priority.Once again thank you very much for giving me light refreshments, sad, hilarious, and other mixed emotions for the past few days.

In the mean time, I prefer dealing with something real, not imaginative, something true not exaggeration, something in this world not in the dream world. THAT'S WHY THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I REPLY YOUR POSTING. No hard feeling I hope. If there is a competition for the best martial arts comics, sure I will nominate you.
Btw, I don't have Post Box. But if you are honest and really meant it, please send a box of tissue (that you plan to give me) as a donation to any charity in your area. For your articles, a box of tissue is not enough, I need a big towel to "cover" such a big imaginations. Have a nice day dreaming.

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[SergeTk]

HuSanYan why post this here, when you already created a whole new thread?????
O wait, I know it didn't have affect you hopped. You thought we start this silly argument about different lineages and you have fun at our expense, right!!

BTW why all of sudden you start posting in this thread? I mean you been around for quite a while on this forum, but only start posting on this thread last month.

[Suhana LIM]

Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
There is too much exaggeration, myth-making and outright fabrication in martial arts today. So many postings in the forums sometimes more like kungfu comics. I've read quite a lot. But I have to compliment you, because so far you are the best. They are full of imaginations and make believe stuffs.
I have to salute you for that. Not many people have that sort of talent. To be honest, I am beginning to like them that I've printed and keep them as "collections." Some of my friends like them, they said it's even better than Ninja Turtle.


Whenever I need something related to legend, myth, imagination, non sober articles of course they will be my first priority.Once again thank you very much for giving me light refreshments, sad, hilarious, and other mixed emotions for the past few days.

In the mean time, I prefer dealing with something real, not imaginative, something true not exaggeration, something in this world not in the dream world. THAT'S WHY THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I REPLY YOUR POSTING. No hard feeling I hope. If there is a competition for the best martial arts comics, sure I will nominate you.
Btw, I don't have Post Box. But if you are honest and really meant it, please send a box of tissue (that you plan to give me) as a donation to any charity in your area. For your articles, a box of tissue is not enough, I need a big towel to "cover" such a big imaginations. Have a nice day dreaming.

read again and again and again......

[Li Mo Bai]

this topic takes very long time to reed!, but i think is very interesting and i thank husanyan for taking time to put subject into discusson, a lot of history to.

[HuSanYan]

HuSanYan why post this here, when you already created a whole new thread?????
O wait, I know it didn't have affect you hopped. You thought we start this silly argument about different lineages and you have fun at our expense, right!!

BTW why all of sudden you start posting in this thread? I mean you been around for quite a while on this forum, but only start posting on this thread last month.

serge, i forgot about the other thread actually, at the time i wasnt sure if it warranted a new thread or not, whatever.
nothing to do with any silly argument, just wanted to share some info that i found (which if you look back a few posts, i say that there) with defend.net, i could have just read it for myself but thought others might find it interesting.

then as if by magic , a few weirdos pop out of the woodwork which from then on will only feed my warped sense of humour. funny how things turn out when all you want to do is share some info with folks. I'm happy either way.
and finally, as i have stated before, i have only recently started researching cma in depth which might explain my recent interest and also (seeing as you are a fan ) was away from the boards for a while, in the real world.
you will be very happy to know that uncle HuSanYan is back in town baby and could, if you like, start taking a nice interest in your future postings & threads.
heres an idea, why dont you read some of the info and keep the thread
1) on topic like me
2) relevant
hope this answers your possibly (correct me if i am wrong) petty and off topic questions.

[HuSanYan]

forgot to say serge my smiling beauty.
*hsy sighs with happiness, ahhh, ummm* being dumb aint so bad, in fact its great, HuSanYan is dumb, oh yeah, real dumb, dumbness flies, it rocks,its kewl, its great & you love me

[HuSanYan]

this topic takes very long time to reed!, but i think is very interesting and i thank husanyan for taking time to put subject into discusson, a lot of history to.

hi Li Mo Bai, you are welcome. do you study NCK??

[Suhana LIM]

Grand Sifu Hu San Yan ni hao
There is too much exaggeration, myth-making and outright fabrication in martial arts today. So many postings in the forums sometimes more like kungfu comics. I've read quite a lot. But I have to compliment you, because so far you are the best. They are full of imaginations and make believe stuffs.
I have to salute you for that. Not many people have that sort of talent. To be honest, I am beginning to like them that I've printed and keep them as "collections." Some of my friends like them, they said it's even better than Ninja Turtle.


Whenever I need something related to legend, myth, imagination, non sober articles of course they will be my first priority.Once again thank you very much for giving me light refreshments, sad, hilarious, and other mixed emotions for the past few days.

In the mean time, I prefer dealing with something real, not imaginative, something true not exaggeration, something in this world not in the dream world. THAT'S WHY THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I REPLY YOUR POSTING. No hard feeling I hope. If there is a competition for the best martial arts comics, sure I will nominate you.
Btw, I don't have Post Box. But if you are honest and really meant it, please send a box of tissue (that you plan to give me) as a donation to any charity in your area. For your articles, a box of tissue is not enough, I need a big towel to "cover" such a big imaginations. Have a nice day dreaming.

read again and again and again and again