Re: Origin of Wuzu (Ngo Cho)
Finally. Master Chee which was not in the lineage simply he was not recognized by some. You said their are other masters senior to Chua right? Can you pls. show any evidence that he is not the founder? Pictures of these masters or any other lineage that agrees with you? There was not only just Beng Kiam lineage here. Are you aware of the Ten Tigers sir? Are you also aware of Ngo Ki Lat? Sam Chien means "three wars" right? Can you explian why is called like that? Your Sam Chien that I saw in your website is that all it or you just showing only a part of it?
Originally posted by Declan
According to Alexander L. Co's book "Five Ancestor Fist Kung Fu: The Way of Ngo Cho Kun", Chua Giok Beng was born in 1853. Master Co's book also shows the "family tree" of Shizu (a title which refers to a great master who is deceased) Chua's students down to the present day.
However, this family tree does not show Shizu Chee Kim Thong, who died in 2001. Shizu Chee told us that he had learned the art in Fujian from Shizu Lin Xian (1859 - 1964) and that Lin Xian had learned it from Shizu Jiu Yi Gong (1806 - 1912). Our tradition is that Shizu Jiu had learned it in the Fujian Shaolin temple.
How could Shizu Jiu have learned Wuzu before Shizu Chua was born if Shizu Chua really did found it?
How could Shizu Chee have known the 108 hand forms and all the weapons and Qigong of Wuzu if he does not appear on the "family tree" of Chua Giok Beng?
To say that Chua Giok Beng founded Wuzu is like a person saying "My grandfather was a great speaker of French. In fact, he invented the French language."
The only response can be: "If that's the case, how come so many French people who never met your grandfather can speak French? And how come they were speaking French in France before your grandfather was born?"
It is not my intention to belittle Shizu Chua or his great achievements; however, the theory that he founded Wuzu does not stand up to even a cursory examination of the facts.
Regards,
Declan
According to Alexander L. Co's book "Five Ancestor Fist Kung Fu: The Way of Ngo Cho Kun", Chua Giok Beng was born in 1853. Master Co's book also shows the "family tree" of Shizu (a title which refers to a great master who is deceased) Chua's students down to the present day.
However, this family tree does not show Shizu Chee Kim Thong, who died in 2001. Shizu Chee told us that he had learned the art in Fujian from Shizu Lin Xian (1859 - 1964) and that Lin Xian had learned it from Shizu Jiu Yi Gong (1806 - 1912). Our tradition is that Shizu Jiu had learned it in the Fujian Shaolin temple.
How could Shizu Jiu have learned Wuzu before Shizu Chua was born if Shizu Chua really did found it?
How could Shizu Chee have known the 108 hand forms and all the weapons and Qigong of Wuzu if he does not appear on the "family tree" of Chua Giok Beng?
To say that Chua Giok Beng founded Wuzu is like a person saying "My grandfather was a great speaker of French. In fact, he invented the French language."
The only response can be: "If that's the case, how come so many French people who never met your grandfather can speak French? And how come they were speaking French in France before your grandfather was born?"
It is not my intention to belittle Shizu Chua or his great achievements; however, the theory that he founded Wuzu does not stand up to even a cursory examination of the facts.
Regards,
Declan
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