Chin-na

[BoarSpear]

Floating root

Some styles of internal arts use the floating root, baqua , baji to a lesser extent and of course white eyebrow and monkey and Mantis since it uses monkey footwork. Try letting a Iron palm practioner slap you if you think kung fu isnt known for its punching power or maybe try the iron fist himself sometime if youre in canada. There are a great many styles, several hundred I believe in China yet some people think that none of them are effective thats bullheaded and arrogant .

[kiddbjj]

chin na is very similar to traditional japanese jui jitsu.
japanese jui jitsu sucks against a resisting opponent, too complicated and too much reliance on precision. but combine the pain causing techniques with a solid base in bjj or wrestling and you have the ability to first control then apply pain. its much more fun

[Tant01]

chin na is very similar to traditional japanese jui jitsu.
japanese jui jitsu sucks against a resisting opponent, too complicated and too much reliance on precision....

LOL




"There are many possible combinations and many variations in their application
(in some cases the initial attack is merely a feint) but the principle remains
the same, i.e. to utilize the opponent's reaction to one attack to unbalance him and leave him vulnerable to attack by another technique."

--Teizo Kawamura, Judo
Combination Techniques


Judo is TOO COMPLICATED to use against a resisting opponent.

The secret principle of jujutsu is moving your body out of the way (taisabaki).
Kenji Tomiki

[Batleth]

Chin-Na is an excellent way to get someone's attention. The fingerlocks are especially painful, and manipulating the joints often expose striking targets like the throat, groin, armpit, eyes, knees etc. Often Chin-Na can act like eyerake, or foot stomp, causing quick pain distraction to set up for an incoming blow, however Chin-Na has the added property of controlling the limb you're attacking. Many of Chin-Na's initial locks are designed to be followed up with chokes, or strikes. Also like BJJ's self-defense techniques Chin-Na lets the opponent determine his level of inury by how much he resists. You can destroy limbs with Chin-Na as easily as you can with BJJ, or Dumog. Someone with fractured fingers, wrist and a shoulder dislocation isn't going to be much of a threat to you anymore.

[Tant01]

Chin-Na is an excellent way to get someone's attention.
... Someone with fractured fingers, wrist and a shoulder dislocation isn't going to be much of a threat to you anymore.

On the contrary, he may be more of a threat. A wounded man is fighting for his life. Never underestimate the threat.


Small broken bones are painful as are dislocations but I've seen a guy with a dislocated shoulder (by a BJJ player) use his good arm to POUND the poor guy into the deck. Seems like it just made him mad really really MAD.

[Batleth]

What I meant was if you destroy your enemy's ability to make war he cannot harm you. Much like the Filipino Martial Art philosphy of defanging the snake. Perhaps an injured finger would not be a fight stopper but if you dislocate or fracture a shoulder, that arm is useless, that leaves you with two arms to his one arm. I am sure a practioner of any of the styles with locks and limb destructions would have no trouble damaging the remaining arm.

[Dim Wit Moc]

I really enjoyed declan's very informative post. All kung fu styles that I know of incorporate chin na techniques. The only thing I would disagree with is about Chin Na not being a kung fu system in itself. The Ying Jow Pai folks say that their art traces its roots back to two ancient kung fu systems, one of which, was Chin Na.