Tai Chi,good self-defense art or not?

[BoarSpear]

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[jubaji]

What? So you're telling me i can spend years training specific responses to stimuli then jump in the ring and fight completly differently, and not use the attacks and defenses the system is known for? Thats not realistic and thats why people think they dont work! The internal martials arts are about particular ways to move, and the strikes all are powered by this way of movement. If i dont use that way of moving (and targeting) Im not using the art as it was designed. If you dont use the power delivery system you arent using the art.

You cant just decide to use the art but not any of its principles and power, without the intent of the strikes its not a fighting system. Its like expecting the GJJ people to not use any locks or holds, when you expect the taiji people to fight like everyone else in the ring. Taiji targets specific targets with specific strikes...IF you know Taiji you know this... if you're not using the proper power and not hitting those points you arent doing Taiji.

*sigh* Let me try to help you recover from the image you seem intent on building.

If a Taijiquan adept were to fight a -whatever- fighter in a ring, or a circle, or a parallelogram and everybody were 'allowed' to do whatever they want, what would happen?

[BoarSpear]

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[jubaji]

did I miss something?

Im NOT saying that wrestling doesnt have lethal techniques.

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When did we start talking about wrestling?

[BoarSpear]

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[jubaji]

to sum it up taiji is a method of SD based upon striking vulnerable points with extreme power and speed, without those two components NONE of the throws and locks hidden in taiji can be safely applied. The founder of yang style Taiji wasnt called "Yang the Invincable" for no reason, he earned the title fighting.

Don't complain the next time someone dismisses TMA. Just don't. You are asking for it.

[BoarSpear]

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[Sagacious Lu]

I think part of the problem is that it's so hard to find someone who really has functionalized fajin punching. There are so few out there that there isn't much opportunity for someone who read's Boar's posts to go see for themselves what Taiji can or cannot do.

[jubaji]

the hand speed from taiji makes my blades damn near impossible to see. .

Oh brother... Just put on the red nose and big shoes now...


You have been gazing at your navel too long. You don't realize how you are presenting yourself and your art to the world when you say things like that.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

ooohhh...he got you there boar, are you gonna take that?
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*awaits action*

[jubaji]

the simple fact you expect TMA people to train one way and fight another ...

When did I say that? You are the one making all the interesting claims here.

[BoarSpear]

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[jubaji]

YOU are grasping at straws to keep your own beliefs on top....

Really? And what beliefs are those?

[BoarSpear]

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[jubaji]

why oh why do people always go to silly extremes?

exactly dude most people havent seen or felt a fajin attack, seeing it once is all it takes to make a believer of you.

And then you sold all your belongings and joined the cult and started selling flowers at the airport...