Tai Chi,good self-defense art or not?

[BoarSpear]

knifethrower…Is that the same dipshit that posted this?



Oh, wait a second…I’M knifethrower…Where DID I put that yellow sash…

i dunno but if you wear it around me, its gonna be around yer neck

[jubaji]

but not anymore....only full contact no pad matches like they used to have remain illegal.

Bare knuckle boxing is banned in most states here. Used to be legal. Sometimes people died. Now boxing is regulated. Does this 'prove' that bare knuckle boxing is just too deadly?

You have thrown all logic to the wind.

[BoarSpear]

Bare knuckle boxing is banned in most states here. Used to be legal. Sometimes people died. Now boxing is regulated. Does this 'prove' that bare knuckle boxing is just too deadly?

You have thrown all logic to the wind.

So, WHY was bareknuckle boxing banned? Oh yeah, because its deemed too brutal and dangerous...huh another thing too deadly for sports if you dont add gloves and rules...HMMMMM.

blinded by your ego huh?

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Like youre not blinded by yours? Im joking!

[BoarSpear]

Like youre not blinded by yours? Im joking!

i have enough sense to know the difference in lethal fighting techniques and a sport you watch on tv.


Im not

[treelizard]

So, WHY was bareknuckle boxing banned? Oh yeah, because its deemed too brutal and dangerous...huh another thing too deadly for sports if you dont add gloves and rules...HMMMMM.

Wouldn't almost ALL arts be deemed too deadly for the ring without rules? I mean, almost every place I've trained has two different versions of techniques, one for real life and one for practice, so we don't go around breaking each other's knees or gouging each other's eyes out or choking our training partners to death.

[BoarSpear]

[Fill your note book with this

[treelizard]

yep most arts have been watered down to a sport, how do you water down attacks to the vitals? pads and gloves arent realistic to protect those targets. because taiji is a SD system it isnt ring friendly.

But there are a lot of martial arts that have attacks to vitals, and they either go very slowly and have very controlled contact, or they pick other areas to train on (bad idea IMO but often necessary: "in real life you;d break his kneecaps, in training we go for the thigh"--who HASN'T heard this in TONS of different styles before?)

It's funny when people start trying to figure out which arts are most deadliest and which styles are most realistic. I've been doing this myself in searching for a new art to train in. I want to learn breakfalls and rolling, and I want to get hit, but most of the arts that do that compromise on speed--they go slowly so things don't break. People who go fast and make contact compromise on technique (by technique I mean the most "lethal" technique, not the most skilled)--they have rules that stop you from killing your training partners all the time. So you really have to compromise, especially when there are weapons involved.

Funny, isn't it? You could train in an art where there is full force, but then in a real life situation, you might fall to the level of your training and forget that it's okay to crack skulls. Or you could train in a more "lethal" art and have the vitals down, but since (for the most part in these arts) you've never learned to take a hit or actually hit a real person before, you'd still be SOL. There are so many examples of this, and I've been racking my brain trying to find around it for the past week or so. There IS no perfect art, no perfect compromise other than a lot of crosstraining, or bouncing. At least that's the conclusion I've come to. And I'll take on anyone who disagrees.

Hey Mike, can I have some of that perfect ice cream sundae though?

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

i have enough sense to know the difference in lethal fighting techniques and a sport you watch on tv.


Im not

Are you saying that techniques used in MMA competitions aren't lethal? Stomping someone's head can't kill them?, Kneeing someone repeatedly in the head wont cause a comatose and possible death? Most techniques are lethal, if done to extent and sometimes even once. Do Tai Chi moves kill on contact or cause delayed death? If they do, how do you manage to actually hit the person, or is Tai Chi so fast that its fairly easy to hit someone? I want to see some of these techniques performed in an actual struggling SD situation. :::BS has been mounted and his flailing about like a fish:::

[jubaji]

So, WHY was bareknuckle boxing banned? Oh yeah, because its deemed too brutal and dangerous...

So, bare knuckle boxing is another super-duper lethal art that cannot be allowed to protect the innocent in your book?

Do they have super powers too?

[BoarSpear]

Fill your note book with this

[BoarSpear]

So, bare knuckle boxing is another super-duper lethal art that cannot be allowed to protect the innocent in your book?

Do they have super powers too?

Look jr Bareknucle boxing used completly different punches and techniques due to the bareknuckles and the reality of hitting with an unprotected hand.

Boxing WITH the damn gloves is probably more dangerous than the bareknuckes. and yes it WAS deemed too brutal, or is history not one of your strong points? you are amazing, you argue FACT, arts have been banned and or regulated because of the deaths and injuries and you still want to argue they arent too dangerous for a "No rules match" funny how many freakin pages of rules there are in the "no rules fights"

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

I see your point and youve succeeded in making me know that Tai Chi really is an awesome SD art that you add to your arsenal of fighing techniques, but ofcoarse, it wont work for certain people, especially people in their 70's.

[BoarSpear]

Are you saying that techniques used in MMA competitions aren't lethal? Stomping someone's head can't kill them?, Kneeing someone repeatedly in the head wont cause a comatose and possible death? Most techniques are lethal, if done to extent and sometimes even once. Do Tai Chi moves kill on contact or cause delayed death? If they do, how do you manage to actually hit the person, or is Tai Chi so fast that its fairly easy to hit someone? I want to see some of these techniques performed in an actual struggling SD situation. :::BS has been mounted and his flailing about like a fish:::

well, how many people have died in an mma tourney or as a result? CAN it cause death? sure but George Bush almost choked on a pretzel, that doesnt mean i recommend offering muggers a pretzel

No people dont die instantly, and yes people may die later from internal injuries, just like from any impacts. How do you manage to hit them? Well they try to attack you, that means they are in reach, you simply hit 'em

And if you werent a jackass, i would invite you to see, i have invited several people, lizard and brewer included...some have come, some aint made it yet

[jubaji]

anything that becomes regulated becomes lethal

Look jr Bareknucle boxing used completly different punches and techniques :

All of which targeted the secret dim mak points of super-duper deadly-ish-ness that only the ancient masters who now dwell in the gardens of the celestial palace know.

Your stupidity is breath-taking.