Inosanto Silat

[SuperToe]

OKay..Ive asked this on other message boards but in maphilindo Silat
What is the breakdown of the levels, What are the first things you learn. plus what is adavanced material.. ex.Combos?

thanks

[Tant01]

I don't study with Guro Inosanto but I'll tell you it's all highly secret and not really the kind of thing you can tell your friends about. If it were everyone and their brother would already know it...

basic Silat is divided into two distinct categories: Djurus, or upper body fundamentals, and Langkah, footwork.


Google and read...

[SuperToe]

yo

thats what i though..theres only the same info on the net..ive study some .i really want to learn it..

[SuperToe]

silat..

hey mike..

Do you have any silat training??

[SuperToe]

silat..

What was that story ABout Herman S about the name supertoe.. You never got around to telling me..

Thanks..

[Ern-Dog]

Guro Inosanto would also talk about how Pak Herman could grab you with his feet. He's seen Pak Herman do some amazing things...

[EGstudent]

OKay..Ive asked this on other message boards but in maphilindo Silat
What is the breakdown of the levels, What are the first things you learn. plus what is adavanced material.. ex.Combos?

thanks

I only trained in it at a few seminars but the first things I learned where Fitzsimmons shift along with basic kickboxing. I learned a few throws Bizet Luar, Puter kapala, Sapu Dalem. You also learn manipulations, entries, destructions, striking on the ground, kicking on the ground. I also learned the first two buah's. In the advanced levels you do a lot of panatukan. You learn to do destructions into throws and go to the ground striking. Its a very interesting and effective system.

[sikal]

OKay..Ive asked this on other message boards but in maphilindo Silat
What is the breakdown of the levels, What are the first things you learn. plus what is adavanced material.. ex.Combos?

thanks

I'll address several issues from this thread in this post.

While I don't know how Guru Dan specifically organizes his Silat curriculum, I can make some educated guesses based on having trained with people who've studied under him or people he studied under.

Quite a bit of Guru Dan's Silat comes from Paul and Victor de Thouars. There's also a lot of influence from Mande Muda primarily through Herman Suwanda though I know he's also trained some with Rita Suwanda and, as far as I know, with their father, Uyuh Suwanda. And, back in the day, he trained in Silat Langkah Empat with Eddie Jaffrey (sp?). There are probably others that have influenced him but those are the big ones that I'm aware of.

Paul and Victor start with juru training to develop an understanding of upper body mechanics and tools. Then they move into the langkah training to develop an understanding of lower body mechanics and tools. Sometimes these are taught simultaneously but kept as distinct entities. Once an understanding of the upper and lower is understood then they are blended.

Herman Suwanda, loving Harimau as he did, seemed to do a lot more langkah work early on and really focused on langkah quite a bit.

As I said, I don't know exactly how Guru Dan has organized his curriculum. I've only attended one of his Silat classes and that was in 2000 the last time I was in L.A. But I would guess that Guru Dan does much the same and starts with juru and langkah work. Using techniques (buah) to illustrate how the juru and langkah can be applied.

BTW, "juru" and "djuru" (the spelling Tant01 used) are the same critter

As for Pak Herman's toes ... they were mind-bogglingly powerful. I saw a video wherein he literally used his toes to grab my instructor's ears and send him rolling across the mat. Pak Herman could pinch as hard (or harder) with his toes than most people can with their fingers (i.e.: pinching between the big toe and the second toe). He would often add this into Harimau techniques which caused excruciating pain that helped take your mind off of trying to counter what he was doing to you elsewhere.

Mike

[kaliman33]

My instructor ron balicki stayed in indonesia with pak herman, i have seen video of him choking and grabbing people with his toes, he pinched ron's testicles once with his feet, he was amazing

Marc halleck

[nasigoreng]

I was told that Guru Inosanto has discontinued giving rank in Maphilindo Silat . Can anyone confirm?

[sikal]

I was told that Guru Inosanto has discontinued giving rank in Maphilindo Silat . Can anyone confirm?

As I understand it, Tuhon Leo Gaje has started using the Maphilindo name. Guru Dan feels that since Maphilindo was originally the brainchild of Tuhon Gaje and Guru Eddy Jaffrey that Tuhon Gaje has first dibs on using the name so Guru Dan is now using the name Majapahit for his Silat blend.

"Maphilindo" comes from "Malaysia, Philippine, Indonesia" which is where the material in the system was being drawn from. The Majapahit Empire ruled that whole region so the name still connotes the same thing but doesn't step on Tuhon Gaje's toes.

Now ... please bear in mind that I'm not a student of Guru Dan's and don't have first hand info on this. What I've just written is just what I've heard in the grapevine that runs through the Inosanto community. Please take it with a large dose of salt because it may be completely inaccurate.

Mike

[Ern-Dog]

"Now ... please bear in mind that I'm not a student of Guru Dan's and don't have first hand info on this. What I've just written is just what I've heard in the grapevine that runs through the Inosanto community. Please take it with a large dose of salt because it may be completely inaccurate."

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Yet you seem to be able to know the inner working of Guro Inosanto's organization well enough to tell someone (in Louisville) that I was in the process of being kicked out of the organization for being a "technique collector", and I was not to be trusted.

Should I also take that, with a large dose of salt as well??

[krys]

"Maphilindo" comes from "Malaysia, Philippine, Indonesia" which is where the material in the system was being drawn from. The Majapahit Empire ruled that whole region so the name still connotes the same thing but doesn't step on Tuhon Gaje's toes.

There is no historical proof Majapahit ever ruled the Philippines, even the extent of Majapahit's domination of actual Indonesian and Malaysian teriitory is very contraversial and subject of debate....

[sikal]

"Now ... please bear in mind that I'm not a student of Guru Dan's and don't have first hand info on this. What I've just written is just what I've heard in the grapevine that runs through the Inosanto community. Please take it with a large dose of salt because it may be completely inaccurate."

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Yet you seem to be able to know the inner working of Guro Inosanto's organization well enough to tell someone (in Louisville) that I was in the process of being kicked out of the organization for being a "technique collector", and I was not to be trusted.

Should I also take that, with a large dose of salt as well??

I'm not sure where you got that info but you can take it as you see fit. I don't think this discussion has any reason being here.

Mike

[sikal]

There is no historical proof Majapahit ever ruled the Philippines, even the extent of Majapahit's domination of actual Indonesian and Malaysian teriitory is very contraversial and subject of debate....

Very interesting. What I've read and been told is that the Majapahit ruled much of that region including Malaysia, Philippines and Indonesia - but more than that, too.

You might be right, though, based on some of the stuff in these articles.

http://www.balivision.com/Article_Resources/majapahit.asp

http://artasia.www2.50megs.com/Indonesia/history.htm

http://users.skynet.be/network.indonesia/ni4001c6.htm

Mike