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    learning how to defend and fight against a knife. what martial art should i take up. i live in queens ny how can i find a good school.

  • #2
    Nick "Raw Dog" Sacoulas is on the Horace Harding Expwy 718-461-0700. He is well qualified in Inosanto Blend, DBMA and Sayoc.

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    • #3
      how effective is sayoc and is it tough to learn

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      • #4
        Hello,

        Sayoc Kali is not difficult to learn, if one is serious and dedicated to practice. A good teacher will provide you with detailed explainations and proper energy to bring you in the right direction. As for "effective", here are a couple of quotes for you:

        "On a scale of 1 to 10, I rate Sayoc Kali a 10. I personally, highly recommend Tuhon Chris Sayoc to anyone interested in learning the strategies and tactics of edged weapons awareness and self-defense."
        Dan Inosanto
        Founder / Head Instructor
        Inosanto Academy of Martial Arts
        Los Angeles, CA

        "Not only is Tuhon Chris the real deal but his teaching skills are of the highest order. I am happy that I have the opportunity to begin as a student of Sayoc Kali."
        Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny
        Guiding Force of the Dog Brothers
        Guro Crafty
        Dog Brothers Martial Arts

        "I've trained with many experts over my 24 years as a Navy SEAL and the information I've found to be the most efficient and well-rounded is the Sayoc Kali knife fighting techniques. You will acquire an exceptional proficiency with a knife beyond anything you thought possible."
        Michael Jaco
        Originator / Head Instructor for the Navy SEALs Combat Fighting Course


        These are just a few quick testimonials, but it should give you an idea of what other top rated martial artist and Elite military personnely think about Sayoc Kali.

        If you have the chance I highly recommend that you go and check out Guro Sacoulas for a Sayoc Kali lesson.

        There are also several other instructors in that area, for more details check out www.Sayoc.com for their information.

        Another art in your area is Atienza Kali, their website is www.Atienzakali.com, I recommend you check them out as well.

        Gumagalang
        Guro Steve L.

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        • #5
          Hi Milk Dud....I agree very much with Guro Steve's recomendations. If interested Guro Leo Manalo has an Atienza Kali training group in Queens. check out the AK web site for details. Guro Nick Sacoulas is also a great teacher, who trains in Atienza Kali. Either one will be an amazing experience.

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          • #6
            is it tough to learn? how good is it for self defense.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MILK DUD
              is it tough to learn? how good is it for self defense.
              By the examples and opinions already expressed, obviously not tough to learn and excellent for 'self defense'.

              --Rafael--

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              • #8
                Try checking out the website....www.atienzakali.com. All information on how to get started is there, including the contact info for the Chief Instructors, who are always happy to answer questions you might have about their system. Enjoy!

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                • #9
                  is sayok btter then amok. what types of weapons do they teach u in sayoc

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                  • #10
                    Hello Again Milk Dud,

                    Sayoc Kali and AMOK, Tribal art of the blade, are both fine martial arts that will teach you effective use of the blade. Professor Sotis is a great teacher, and has several branches around the states for you to train with. If you are interested in Sayoc Kali than I suggest you head over to www.Sayoc.com and read the material presented there, or purchase a DVD to start your training off with.

                    Gumagalang
                    Guro Steve L.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Airyu
                      Hello Again Milk Dud,

                      Sayoc Kali and AMOK, Tribal art of the blade, are both fine martial arts that will teach you effective use of the blade. Professor Sotis is a great teacher, and has several branches around the states for you to train with. If you are interested in Sayoc Kali than I suggest you head over to www.Sayoc.com and read the material presented there, or purchase a DVD to start your training off with.

                      Gumagalang
                      Guro Steve L.

                      www.Bujinkandojo.net
                      which one is beter? i looked on amoks website and couldnt find anywhere near queens nyc to tran. i saw progressive martial arts but i dont know if itso nly sayok kali it looks lieka cross trainign of 3 arts

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MILK DUD
                        which one is beter? i looked on amoks website and couldnt find anywhere near queens nyc to tran. i saw progressive martial arts but i dont know if itso nly sayok kali it looks lieka cross trainign of 3 arts

                        I like your screen name.

                        --Rafael--

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                        • #13
                          Hello Milk Dud,

                          Here is some information on AMOK! and Sayoc Kali.

                          AMOK! - founder Professor Tom Sotis, website www.knifefighting.com. When I first started with Professor Tom, it was on a search for Dagaso Tirsia from G.T. Gaje, this search eventually lead me to G.T. Gaje directly and then to Tuhon Chris Sayoc, whom I am currently studying with. AMOK! at that time had various drills to help a practitioner develop certain fighting skills. AMOK! at the time, also included Pekiti Tirsia's 64 attack system of practice into the regular curriculum. Later in the practice, Professor Sotis, did away with many of the training drills in favor of a much more/less structured art with alot more sparring/dueling added to the practice. Professor Sotis also continues to teach aspects of flexible weapons, unarmed skills as well as to tap into his practice of various arts, such as Kuntao etc. to augment his students fighting skill repertoire. During my time with him, I was only shown a few techniques derived from his training with G.T Gaje, and he continues with his path in AMOK!, training with various masters to help enhance his skill and art of AMOK! Definitely a person to train with!!

                          Sayoc Kali - Headed by Tuhon Christopher Sayoc, website www.Sayoc.com.

                          The Sayoc System of Edged Weapons Dynamics is taught in three parts. Sayoc Kali, Sayoc Silak, and Sayoc Bakal. The Sayoc Kali system emphasizes the correct and effective usage of the blade. During training a student will learn how to use a single blade, with progression to the use of multiple blades, in conjunction with empty-hands training. Sayoc Kali contains the basic teaching formula, and is primarily concerned with the development of the "Feeder". Feeder based mentality is best described by answering this oft-asked question: "How would you defend against a guy with a knife?" Feeder Based mentality : "I have the Knife" The Sayoc Silak system is the counter offensive training and contains the second learning formula. This training revolves around the "Receiver", and is started with the empty hands. The Sayoc Bakal system is the third aspect taught. It is comprised around the use of projectiles in combat. It works as a complete system and complements and enhances both Sayoc Kali and Sayoc Silak.. Included in these 3 categories of training are: proper handling or blade edge discipline, blade deployment, vital target discrimination, defense against and the practice of disarms, projectiles and finger-touch methodology used in conjunction with knife work, critical injury management, teaching methodologies, non linear templates, 2 dominant weapon usage, environmental tactics, power assisted movements, and a system for multiple man situations.

                          All this information may be confusing to you, but I suggest you go and take a class in the respective arts and see which one you feel best about training in.

                          Gumagalang
                          Guro Steve L.

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