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  • What is the system or style you practice?

    Just wondering what styles are being practiced in the forum.

    The style or system I practice is an ancient from of Kali that has been in my family for generations. When translated into English is called Ultimate Mega Kali.

    Please post your style.

  • #2
    we just call our art kuntaw, gatdula style. (gatdula is my last name) both my grandfather and i learned some other styles, like abaniko style eskrima, and what we like became our own.

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    • #3
      What I was taught, my grandfather-in-law said his father just called it kahoy. And silat. He changed alot though and adapted his fighting into the 70's. We adapt into the 2000. Full Contact style. Make sure it works style.

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      • #4
        Styles represented...

        Hi guys,
        I train and teach primarily LAMECO Eskrima with a heavy influence of De Campo Uno-Dos-Tres Orehenal for impact weapons and Kali Illustrisimo for bladed weapons.
        As well over the past 20 years or so i`ve trained Inosanto Blend, Inosanto-Lacoste, Lucay-lucay Kali, Kali Pekiti-tirsia, Pangian Langka Empat Silat and Muay-thai. Also, through the years i`ve trained for brief periods of time with various systems and Masters in different regions of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao Philippines.
        However, since 1992 I have concentrated solely on Lameco Eskrima and have dedicated my self full time to propagating the warrior arts of Punong Guro Edgar G. Sulite to inquiring minds across the globe.
        Balisong, what is your system called in Pilipino or in your local dialect? What would you say is the main emphasis of your system? In which range would you say that it is most effective? Do you incorporate oracion or anting-anting into your training? Just curious, because I have never heard of this style before.
        ~ Guro Dave Gould.

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        • #5
          I'm currently training in 2 systems. One is Sikal, the other is Silat Serak.

          Sikal is a hybrid of elements from various Filipino and Indonesian martial arts (i.e.: "Si"lat and "Kal"i). It's primary influences were Lacoste/Inosanto Blend, Mande Muda Silat. It draws to lesser extents from Kun Tao Silat de Thouars, Silat Serak, Balintawak Cuentada Eskrima, Dekiti Tirsia Kali, and Doce Pares/Eskrido.

          Regards, Mike

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          • #6
            Guro Dave Gould,

            I was just kidding about the Ultimate Mega Kali thing.
            One of these days though, I will create my own style and follow the path of Benjamin Lema, or Herminio Binas and call my art something similar to Lighting Scientific Arnis,
            or Supreme Dynamic Arnis. I like the word CONSOLIDATED and will consider that term in the name of my system as well.

            Anyway,

            I mainly practice Lameco, but particularly favor the Kali Ilustrisimo aspect of the art.

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            • #7
              LAMECO

              Balisong,
              With whom do you train Lameco? How long have you trained? Have you only been exposed to Kali Illustrisimo through Lameco or have you trained in Makati with the Bakbakan group? Or possibly Hans Tan or Rey Galang? just curious...
              ~ Guro Dave Gould.

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              • #8
                Guro Dave Gould,

                Much of my Kali Ilustrisimo was taught from Hans. Did you go to the seminar last month?

                What I really like from Lameco also is the Caballero.

                What is Inosanto Blend composed of?

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                • #9
                  LAMECO

                  Balisong,
                  Hello, Hans called me when he got into town but I was not able to meet with him because I had a seminar the same week-end as his on the East coast. Other wise it would have been great to have seen him again. Is he still in town or has he gone back to Manila?
                  As well this is a very busy part of the year for me as I am arranging my annual tour of Europe. I will be conducting seminars in Frankfurt, Berlin, Reutlingen, Wurzburg, Nurnberg, Cologne, Stockholm and will be training various elite military units within Europe as well. All in all I will be on the road for 8 weeks. Then shortly after my return I head out for Africa.
                  So to say the least I am very busy right now in trying to arrange all of the travel, accomodations, putting together the seminar curriculum for each event and so on. I will also be conducting a Lameco seminar in Marina Del Rey, Ca on January 20 just 2 days before I leave for Europe. The seminar will be for 4 hours and I will only cover Lameco knife related material for the day. If you are interested let me know and I will get the contact information out to you.
                  The "Caballero" system is "De Campo Uno-Dos-Tres Orehenal" as GM Jose D. Caballero was the founder of the system. Most people just refer to it within Lameco as "Caballero". The original system is now being taught openly in Ozamis City, Mindanao now as "JDC De Campo Uno-Dos-Tres IO" by the inheritor and current GM of the system Ireneo 'Eric' Olivides.
                  As for the Inosanto blend that is a combination of the 25 different pilipino warrior arts that Guro Inosanto has trained over the years and this blend is his translation of those systems combined. Take care and be well...
                  ~ Guro Dave Gould.

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                  • #10
                    Guro Dave Gould,

                    Sounds like you have a pretty busy schedule.

                    Isn't the Lameco knife stuff Pekiti Tirsia?

                    As far as Hans is concerned, he is still in town until next week. His knowledge of Kali Ilustrisimo is very deep.


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                    • #11
                      LAMECO knife...

                      Balisong,
                      Hello again, To answer your question No... although Pekiti-tirsia is one of the 5 major and 6 minor systems used to form LAMECO the system leans more toward Kali Illustrisimo when utilizing bladed weapons and De Campo Uno-Dos-Tres Orehenal when utilizing impact weapons. The Lameco "knife" curriculum is a combination of functional pieces of Kali Illustrisimo and Kali Pekiti-tirsia heavily influenced by Caballero mindset, aggression and Punong Guro Sulites personal experiences of knife encounters in the Philippines.
                      Punong Guro Sulite`s knifework at the higher level is quite physically demanding as you are dealing with alot of aggressive footwork in addition to delivering powerful strikes in real time based on working against non-cooperative and resistive opponents. In essence the knife curriculum is like Illustrisimo / Pekiti-tirsia technique with major Caballero attitude with the volume turned way up in its application...
                      In addition alot of the curriculum evolved with Punong Guro Sulite over the years from situation to situation as he was forced to problem solve and those possibilities which were discovered by him were added to the curriculum. Lameco as people knew it in 1981 definetly was not the same Lameco as was in 1997 when Punong Guro Sulite passed away.
                      Most people associate a knife workout to be an easy one to say the least. Whereas in Lameco this is`nt the case. You will sweat and exert as much energy with a knife as you would expect to exert by swinging a heavy piece of kamagong while doing a hard 2 hours of the Caballero system. It is more attribute based than technical skill. Alot of emphasis is placed on ones ability to move and adequately develop speed, timing, power, position, ranging, non-telegraphic striking, grip strength, recovery, charging, feinting, non-cooperation, perception and reaction, etc...
                      In all honesty my students get more bumps and bruises from knife training than with anything else. Having said that they all respect how difficult achieving a positive disarm is in combat from a knife attack delivered at real speed with power by a person hell bent on tearing your head off. As well they know the realities of trying to stop a very powerful strike from a very angry mindset that will not take no for an answer. When you`re training and you are thinking about anything else than the very thing that you are confronting in that specific point in time than you are not training hard enough. mindset is another very important aspect to Punong Guro Sulites knife curriculum.
                      Punong Guro Sulite always taught us that the way that we trained would be the way that we would fight. If we train with violence, aggression and power than we will respond in like manner when confronted with a crisis situation. For us to be effective in combat the very way that we train has to resemble as close as possible the very thing for which we are training. The thing that we are training to deal with is not pleasent by any means nor should the way that we train by which to prepare us to deal with those potential morbid experiences.
                      When Punong Guro would train us he would`nt allow any of us to stab or cut him in training or other wise. As He was teaching us not to get cut and if we ran into complications we should have the ability to find solutions very quickly until we found a home for our blade whereby putting that situation down with success. non-cooperation and aggression is a huge part of Lameco knifework. I hope that this answers your questions...
                      ~ Guro Dave Gould.

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                      • #12
                        I train and teach in Sikadsu, short for Sikad Suntok. Style was created by Master Sargent I. Gardiola in the 70's and is based on Balintawak Arnis, Judo, Karate and a form of combat that we taught in the army (combo of Muay Thai and other techniques). He created the style as he thought what was being taught in his camp was not that complete. Each instructor is free to incorporate other style into their own curiculum as long as they stick the the base style, that is why many different branches of Sikadsu have a slight difference in their fight.

                        Kyoshu

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                        • #13
                          tongkat silat serak,and modern arnis now,in seattle /tacoma area

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                          • #14
                            tsunaminw,

                            Do you train Modern Arnis with Myrlino?

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                            • #15
                              i train with datu kelly worden,,but will be at remys party at myrlinos in feb. no disrespect to myrlino,but datus program is much more street practical,jkd-like with dumog/sambo,silat,muay thai,etc. myrlino teaches tkd..

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