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  • Strategies/Offense vs. Defense

    Two part question here because the strategy side of it may not get too many responses.

    What types of strategies do the FMA practicioners here employ and practice? How important are strategies in fighting?

    Offense and Defense are both strategies in their own right. How important are they to each other. Which is more important to begin training first? What are the basic outlooks on the two?


  • #2
    Woof!

    I teach offense first. I want my students to be able to hit
    hard. I teach a traditional 12 strike system, and have
    my students train striking hard with each of those 12 strikes.

    IMO, a good offense makes a great defense.


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    • #3
      I have an interview with Antonio Illustrisimo at my website. He discusses strategy in the interview.
      If you know who Illustrisimo is, then you know you should read what he has to say regarding strategy.

      If you don't know who he is, you should get acquainted with him and http://www.my.treeway.com/illustrisimo

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      • #4
        Like AWSolis we to focus on attacking with a 12 strike system in mind.

        Kyoshu

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        • #5
          I liked the interview. Is there anymore to it?

          Alvis, a good offense is a good defense. Most of the guys that first come to train with us that already have FMA training just don't know how to hit hard. I think this is due to the FMA schools teaching so much defensive moves that people don't realize they have to also be able to hit hard. That's one of the first things I see if people can do when I first meet them. See who can throw a hard number one and four.

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          • #6
            Hi
            In the Pekiti-Tirsia training I've done and guided others on we first learn targets and how to hit them (it does make a difference)and how to hit hard. This is done using all the footwork and angles. hit! Hit! HIt! HIT!! When we start to learn counters it is very aggressive and aways taking it to the opponent. This I find helps the beginner develop hard hitting and a get in and take care of business NOW attitude.

            Danny T

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            • #7
              interview

              thanks, Balisong;

              good interview & like the site, too.

              Chop Wisby

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              • #8
                offense

                Proactive not reactive.Strike. Always move in,never back up.

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                • #9
                  Use attack...

                  We first learn, in Kung Fu, a 3 step theory.

                  The idea is to always keep the distance of three steps and if they are going to attack then you meet them on the 2nd step. You use attack and take away their momentum?!

                  ...I would like to hear some comment's on this

                  !the idea being, we do not box. ( We were told that if you stay still or go backward's that you will be swamped by the other's momentum.)

                  ...my $0.02.

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                  • #10
                    Palm strikes

                    Do you use palm strikes in FMA?


                    In Kung Fu we use the palm strike, which then changes into a grab, and this pulls them into another strike: such as a spear hand(Phoenix eye fist).

                    Do you do this type of thing?

                    What are the FMA about?

                    Who is a big name, or can you give me a good web-site and/or reference?

                    Anyone????

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                    • #11
                      re: target's

                      Danny T.

                      Would you mind elaborating on the Target practise...

                      All we have learnt is Palm strikes(soft) hit hard target's(chin);

                      Phoenix eye(hard) hit soft target's(throat/eye).

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bbbb
                        Do you use palm strikes in FMA?
                        yes.


                        Originally posted by bbbb
                        What are the FMA about?
                        Overkill .

                        Originally posted by bbbb
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                        Anyone????
                        here's a couple to get you started...

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                        • #13
                          My defensive strategy is simple. I get my homework done. I study every system, I watch tapes of k-1, boxing, ufc what ever. This thread, for me it's homework, I'm Like monitoring the offensive responses and commiting them to memory. Just like the Book of 5 rings................the Wind school. Know what's out there. I like sparring practice, grappling practice whatever. I believe in practice. My offensive strategy is don't go looking for trouble because it will surely be there if you go looking. As for competition; I'm retirement age and my only competition will be self defense or sparring. In a real fight {not competition} you only have about 3 seconds to make a decision and react. The problem with real fights is the dynamic attacks. ( improvised weapons, actual weapons and multiple attack situation). How can you prepare? Just practice, practice and more practice and keep up on the contemporary issues. Some sources of the contemporary issues are the martial arts periodicals and the police blotter section of your local newspaper. I just finished studying a book intitled "How to protect yourself from crime" by Ira A. Lipman. It was awesome......his field is not martial arts but the Security business. It will really open your mind.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kyoshu
                            Like AWSolis we to focus on attacking with a 12 strike system in mind.

                            Kyoshu
                            I'm taught using this method as well, with both knives and sticks. I reckon that its a pretty good method of learning basic strikes and counters. (obviously, since it wouldn't get used). Although, i havent moved onto empty hands yet, so i dont know if the 12 strikes/counters applies there.

                            I believe that being observant is a key defense, even the best martial artist can be taken out by a surprise attack.

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                            • #15
                              I teach DEFENSE first and foremost. A player must be evasive against his opponent or be able to negate an aggressive attacker. Agile footwork/mobility, body mechanics (i.e. slipping, pulling), parries, blocks, deflections, jams etc. IMO…it takes more science, it takes more skill than offense.

                              A relentless, determined, violent person does not worry about increasing power, developing speed and perfecting their timing. Just the mindset alone is tactics enough for offense.

                              Yours in the Arts,

                              John G. Jacobo
                              School for the Warrior Arts & Combatives (www.swacom.com)

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