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  • #2
    I can DIG IT!

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    • #3
      Don't want to be too unkind, as I don't know what the clip was recorded for but;

      It's not hapnin!

      Really!

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      • #4
        how about this one?



        forget the other parts other than the stickwork plz

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          • #6
            Not sure aout his escrima(though i can guess!) but on the first you tube vid what he called muay thai was definately Not muay thai!.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mike Brewer
              What he's doing is pretty basic double stick. I learned the base six-count and the witik prefix he's using in my first week of training, and I imagine most other kali-escrima students do as well. After watching it only once, I want to say the guy is left handed, or maybe hurt his right hand/wrist at some point because his left definitely looks more flexible. I'd say escrima wasn't his first system, because his footwork is pretty random. Also, maybe it's the fact that he's got a lot of strength in his arms, but I don't see his hips and waist carrying the strikes as much as many other teachers. His mechanics don't seem all that refined. He looks more like an empty-hand stylist that is now learning the stickwork to supplement. Still, he looks coordinated, and he's obviously impressed with what double sticks can do, so that means he's got the right ingredients for working hard. The foundation is definitely there for him to build on, and of course, all of it is pure speculation until you see him fight. Bottom line is, no matter how the guy looks from a technical standpoint, if he can fight with it, it's good stuff, right?
              hello,

              considering the direction he moved (to his left) it is likely he is right handed with injury. footwork? there was footwork? hahaha!!

              not too be to critical, but the assessment by mikebrewster seems 'spot on'.

              it appears overall that this video was his effort to evaluate his performance... "we just worked on this recently... is it looking like i got the idea?"

              this could be thought of as the "before" video. maybe we will see the "after" video at some point.

              thanks.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mike Brewer
                Again, it looks pretty basic. The reason I say that is because the sticks are being swung with the tips nearly straight up - like they are hitting at each other's sticks rather than aiming at the targets on the body. They look as though they are doing the pattern for the sake of doing a pattern, and it lacks a little polish. Again, though, the guy seems to enjoy stickwork, and enthusiasm generally leads to some level of accomplishment.

                Why are you so interested in getting input on this instructor?
                hello,

                only watched the video. did not realize this was an instructor. oh. wow.
                "sifu" suggests a different base system. if he is offering instruction in filipino weaponry, it is likely he receives instruction from another source concurrently.

                interesting concept. does this occur often?

                thanks.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lorenzodamarith View Post
                  hello,

                  considering the direction he moved (to his left) it is likely he is right handed with injury. footwork? there was footwork? hahaha!!

                  not too be to critical, but the assessment by mikebrewster seems 'spot on'.

                  it appears overall that this video was his effort to evaluate his performance... "we just worked on this recently... is it looking like i got the idea?"

                  this could be thought of as the "before" video. maybe we will see the "after" video at some point.

                  thanks.
                  I thought he was left handed as the right hand was only in the base pattern while the left hand did the watik's and obiniko's for the extra and half beats.

                  Otherwise I pretty much agree. It is basic so far. But as the first responder stated what was the video recorded for?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jules View Post
                    how about this one?



                    forget the other parts other than the stickwork plz


                    No disrespect intended to the young sifu at all. He is no doubt the respected teacher?

                    The stick play is like patty cake. It is fun and educational, also good for the coordination and timing and rhythm...

                    I prefer one stick but appreciate the drills. You know? When I would engage in the stickwork the instructor had the habit of hitting unexpectedly hard to dislodge the stick, also changing targets to see if we would "adapt" on the fly. It was often less about counting and angles and more about finding the hole in defense. Or learning to expect the unexpected? It would often lead to injury or hurt pride but there is a real line between teaching or demonstrating the application and actual "Fighting" with the sticks.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Troll Virus View Post
                      Mark Denny and the Dog Brothers are da bomb!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rich Parsons View Post
                        I thought he was left handed as the right hand was only in the base pattern while the left hand did the watik's and obiniko's for the extra and half beats.

                        Otherwise I pretty much agree. It is basic so far. But as the first responder stated what was the video recorded for?
                        hello,

                        that thought had crossed the mind... at the time of the post, it had to do with the footwork and "body english". something about how the body mass was being managed. of course, it is only an estimation, the sifu was not present to ask. would have been useful to understand the purpose of the clip. this may have explained some things.

                        oh well. hope he keeps training.

                        thanks.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by darrianation View Post
                          Mark Denny and the Dog Brothers are da bomb!
                          Sure are!



                          Bomb dey are!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mike Brewer
                            I'd say escrima wasn't his first system, because his footwork is pretty random . . . He looks more like an empty-hand stylist that is now learning the stickwork to supplement.
                            Very good observations Mike. Jon is a Wing Chun stylist from Dallas that has supplemented his Art with JKD Concepts, Kali, Thai Boxing, etc. Very nice guy. I have seen him for years at Guro Dan seminars here in Texas.

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