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So what are some of the methods of training for closing the gap(transitional ranges)?
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Hmmm...weapon. I'll start a thread on emty hand as well.Comment
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we haven't been doing this too long, so some of our answers may not be correct...
when i'm fighting my training partner, my closing the gap skills are pretty basic.
1) I do a roof block/roof shield to close the gap, and gain control of his weapon hand..
2) If he reaches to strike my weapon (with no real action/intent, a sloppy mistake he has to learn to quit doing) I abaniko, shoving his weapon to one side, control it with the check hand, and strike him with the second strike of the abaniko
3) Fighting stick and knife, or espada y daga, I'll tie his long weapon up with mine and close to strike with my short blade. This is the basic technique, nothing fancy
4) I find entries off of sloppy, wide attacks, block the weapon from a returning swing with a wing and close for grappling
That's about all I've found in our practices, and I'm curious to hear some of your techniques..as this is currently a question in my mind..
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Well I had a few drills that we don't really do anymore, maybe I should show them to the new guys and see what they think. But we rendered them obsolete and had some others. Maybe I'll open this back up and start looking at it though. They are some pretty good drills IMO, though.
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So, chad, what drills did you use til they were rendered obselete.. and what rendered them such?
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Closing
Last week due to work requirements I missed our Kali class. So I went home and spent a very fruitful 2 hrs working on my weak points... my close was one of the focuses of this session. I spent a 1/2 hr on the hvy bag closing with a witik. I focused on using medium steps to close the distance with the stick jab.... close w/ one step-jab, close w/ two, close w/ three step-jabs... work on non-telegraphic jabs... follow my jabs up w/ multiple strikes. I did this while wearing my Doce Pares headgear and LaCrosse gloves.... trying to replicate what I do in sparring.
Spent another half hour doing the same formula with 16 oz gloves and the DP headgear (we often do knife.... then stick.... then mt hand... then ground sparring consecutively) working my kickboxing on the bag.
15 min karenza w/rattan
15 min shadowboxing
30 min karenza in the backyrad w/ my barong & kukhri
And you know what... pulled off a real nice double witik (jab hand/jab head) on Wednesday. It's all 'bout the basics baby!
Your mileage may vary....
~Kev
Last week due to work requirements I missed our Kali class. So I went home and spent a very fruitful 2 hrs working on my weak points... my close was one of the focuses of this session. I spent a 1/2 hr on the hvy bag closing with a witik. I focused on using medium steps to close the distance with the stick jab.... close w/ one step-jab, close w/ two, close w/ three step-jabs... work on non-telegraphic jabs... follow my jabs up w/ multiple strikes. I did this while wearing my Doce Pares headgear and LaCrosse gloves.... trying to replicate what I do in sparring.
Spent another half hour doing the same formula with 16 oz gloves and the DP headgear (we often do knife.... then stick.... then mt hand... then ground sparring consecutively) working my kickboxing on the bag.
15 min karenza w/rattan
15 min shadowboxing
30 min karenza in the backyrad w/ my barong & kukhri
And you know what... pulled off a real nice double witik (jab hand/jab head) on Wednesday. It's all 'bout the basics baby!
Your mileage may vary....
~Kev
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close the gap?
what is the relationship between closing the gap & triangle-stepping drills?
what is the relationship between closing the gap & triangle-stepping drills?
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Chop, they both involve the use of your feet. 
Dwayne, the drills were pretty easy and fun and involved moving sticks and closing the gap behind "techniques" like 'outside deflection', ' open-side eagle wing to abanico', 'palis-palis', and inside deflection, roof-or close-side eagle wing for the other side. I think they are still good, but I just haven't found someone that wants to work with it right now.
Dwayne, the drills were pretty easy and fun and involved moving sticks and closing the gap behind "techniques" like 'outside deflection', ' open-side eagle wing to abanico', 'palis-palis', and inside deflection, roof-or close-side eagle wing for the other side. I think they are still good, but I just haven't found someone that wants to work with it right now.
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footwork
chad;
thanks for the tip.
chad;
thanks for the tip.
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Re: close the gap?
The "female triangle" ( i.e.: \/ ) is often used to close the gap ... while simultaneously avoiding or jamming their attack.
So, if a guy is swinging an right-handed angle 1 and I use the right side of the female triangle, then I gain time and distance by "zoning" away from his swing and stepping into him where I can attack. If, I use the left side of the female triangle, then I move directly toward the attack (i.e.: toward his right shoulder) and can jam his attack and be in range to counter attack.
Regards, Mike
Originally posted by Chop Wisby
what is the relationship between closing the gap & triangle-stepping drills?
what is the relationship between closing the gap & triangle-stepping drills?
So, if a guy is swinging an right-handed angle 1 and I use the right side of the female triangle, then I gain time and distance by "zoning" away from his swing and stepping into him where I can attack. If, I use the left side of the female triangle, then I move directly toward the attack (i.e.: toward his right shoulder) and can jam his attack and be in range to counter attack.
Regards, Mike
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feet
thanks, man; i'd been thinking about that . . .
there is similar footwork in tomiki aikido.
thanks, man; i'd been thinking about that . . .
there is similar footwork in tomiki aikido.
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