Single Stick, Double Stick, Long and short, Long sticks, short sticks, knife(s)-reverse or fencing grip, emoty hand, long, middle, close, offense, defense? What's the level of progression that everyone here learned? Is this the best progression that you think there is? Would you do it a little different? Why or why not? What way would you do it if you had to teach someone? Would you do it different if you had only 1 month to work with? 6 months? 1 year? A woman or a man? Is this too much for 1 thread?
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I like the kuntawman's progression more than the one I recieved.. see, my progression really wasn't a progression. I agree with you, chad, in that the deflections and such are not the basics, but more advanced..
I also know my instructor was trying to start an FMA club in a state where TKD is the big winner. I think he was working a happy medium to hold onto students. Also, it was kind of catch-as-catch can.. in that you never knew who would show up to the "eclectic" class.. so on tues you might have some fairly advanced students, able to do all the flow drills with soft, fast energy.. then on wednesday, some tkd students who couldn't even seem to hit your stick with any proficiency.. also, their was so much class material (jun fan type class) that you never even knew what you'd be working on from class to class.. you might go for 2 months doing all stickwork.. then two weeks doing thai stuff, then one day some wing chun.. then back to sticks, and the wing chun is totally forgotten by most students when you finally returned to it.. these things really bothered me..
I think you're right, chad, sparring would be the best place to start people. If nothing else, it allows them to have a taste of what the real thing is before the static, order-driven drill is brought in..so they have some questions before the drill gives them the answers.
one thing you guys might help me with.. we didn't have the terms SakSak or Sakay in our class..and i see these alot.. can you help me with some definitions..?
I like the kuntawman's progression more than the one I recieved.. see, my progression really wasn't a progression. I agree with you, chad, in that the deflections and such are not the basics, but more advanced..
I also know my instructor was trying to start an FMA club in a state where TKD is the big winner. I think he was working a happy medium to hold onto students. Also, it was kind of catch-as-catch can.. in that you never knew who would show up to the "eclectic" class.. so on tues you might have some fairly advanced students, able to do all the flow drills with soft, fast energy.. then on wednesday, some tkd students who couldn't even seem to hit your stick with any proficiency.. also, their was so much class material (jun fan type class) that you never even knew what you'd be working on from class to class.. you might go for 2 months doing all stickwork.. then two weeks doing thai stuff, then one day some wing chun.. then back to sticks, and the wing chun is totally forgotten by most students when you finally returned to it.. these things really bothered me..
I think you're right, chad, sparring would be the best place to start people. If nothing else, it allows them to have a taste of what the real thing is before the static, order-driven drill is brought in..so they have some questions before the drill gives them the answers.
one thing you guys might help me with.. we didn't have the terms SakSak or Sakay in our class..and i see these alot.. can you help me with some definitions..?
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hi, chad
actually i learned to use my hands and feet, and to use a bolo using this method. when i learn the abaniko system (some people call it pekiti tirsia-not the system but the fighting technique of pekiti tirsia), i was taught during sparring practice. we touch our fist together and then try to trap the opponents hand and hit the opponent (who was my brother, my grandmother, or my grandfather). first he let us use regular hittings, but then he taught us the witik two hits at a time. then we learned passing with the butt. then trapping the stick, then disarmings. i think they were in that order, but that is how i teach it. the goal is to (1) become good at hitting your opponent from any angle very quickly (2) be able to "feel" your opponent next move (3) be able to control the opponet weapons while you are distracting him with another move and (4) know when to disarms the opponent, like when his grip loosens or he is about to move his stick.
most of the stick fighting in my system was the abaniko style until i went to the philippines in 1988 when i met ernesto and roberto presas. they introduce me to NARAPHIL sparring, and i fell in love with stick fighting ever since. when i came home in 1990, i adapted the stick fighting i learn to what we do, and i came up with the teaching method that i put up at the other post. it was my papa's method, i just change it to meet what i am now teaching. it works, because my boys are pretty good stick fighting. they are not afraid of the stick, because we dont use gear, and they respect the power of the stick, they will not let you hit their head, collarbones, or wrist or shins. but you know, what the dog brothers have made for themself, many schools in the are doing already for a long time.
oh, quietanswer, saksakin is to stab or thrust. many people use "sak sak" to name their knife styles. a sak sak can also be a hook or uppercut with the tip of the stick. or you can say sungkit.
actually i learned to use my hands and feet, and to use a bolo using this method. when i learn the abaniko system (some people call it pekiti tirsia-not the system but the fighting technique of pekiti tirsia), i was taught during sparring practice. we touch our fist together and then try to trap the opponents hand and hit the opponent (who was my brother, my grandmother, or my grandfather). first he let us use regular hittings, but then he taught us the witik two hits at a time. then we learned passing with the butt. then trapping the stick, then disarmings. i think they were in that order, but that is how i teach it. the goal is to (1) become good at hitting your opponent from any angle very quickly (2) be able to "feel" your opponent next move (3) be able to control the opponet weapons while you are distracting him with another move and (4) know when to disarms the opponent, like when his grip loosens or he is about to move his stick.
most of the stick fighting in my system was the abaniko style until i went to the philippines in 1988 when i met ernesto and roberto presas. they introduce me to NARAPHIL sparring, and i fell in love with stick fighting ever since. when i came home in 1990, i adapted the stick fighting i learn to what we do, and i came up with the teaching method that i put up at the other post. it was my papa's method, i just change it to meet what i am now teaching. it works, because my boys are pretty good stick fighting. they are not afraid of the stick, because we dont use gear, and they respect the power of the stick, they will not let you hit their head, collarbones, or wrist or shins. but you know, what the dog brothers have made for themself, many schools in the are doing already for a long time.
oh, quietanswer, saksakin is to stab or thrust. many people use "sak sak" to name their knife styles. a sak sak can also be a hook or uppercut with the tip of the stick. or you can say sungkit.
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