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    YouTube - Silat Suffian Bela Diri - Shock Blade Entries - Speed Kill

    Didn't see this stuff already posted anywhere. I usually find their clips thought provoking.

  • #2
    My only exposure to this group has been through the internet, but I think they train military groups as their main focus.

    I agree that as with any type of training theres stuff in there that isn't everyones cup of tea. I'd venture that the training isn't geared to a civilian reaction to attack. I sure wouldn't want to be in court defending those responses as SD.

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    • #3
      I'm CRAZY

      Originally posted by TTEscrima View Post
      My only exposure to this group has been through the internet, but I think they train military groups as their main focus.

      I agree that as with any type of training theres stuff in there that isn't everyones cup of tea. I'd venture that the training isn't geared to a civilian reaction to attack. I sure wouldn't want to be in court defending those responses as SD.



      Seems more than a bit like assassination to me?

      Good luck making THAT seem "reasonable" in the eyes of a jury, eh?

      Insanity might be better than self defense for a legal strategy there...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mike Brewer
        Agreed. I also figure these sets are showing very basic concepts and not actual techniques. Hard to make the jump that any realistic knife art would begin with both opponents armed equally, squared off, face to face. Among other things, it's that sort of distillation that contributes to massive public misunderstanding of what knife engagements often look like. The idea that everyone's armed and ready and aware of the exact threat has probably been shattered more than once by the reality of the issue.
        SHHHHHH, If you take the concept of two equally armed opponents who are facing each other and aware of the impending fight out of the equation you take all the fun out of knife work. It's been my observation that people don't like to train things that aren't fun, reality sux even in training. If you train for reality you have to ambush unarmed people and no one likes getting "killed" even in training.

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        • #5
          Sorry TT, the attacker is stiff, unmotivated to make the kill and unbalanced in his attack. He also freezes on 'first touch' from his teacher...

          It only makes the defender look like an amateur.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ttruscott View Post
            Sorry TT, the attacker is stiff, unmotivated to make the kill and unbalanced in his attack. He also freezes on 'first touch' from his teacher...

            It only makes the defender look like an amateur.
            Comments like this always amaze me. If both parties reacted at anywhere near full speed you wouldn't be able to see jack shit. The videos are designed so people can SEE them and draw concepts from them to incorporate into their own training. I've been known to freeze on contact from some of my instructors as well because if I continued to move they ramped things up to put a stop to it thus the only thing I learned was the teacher was working at my level not the other way around. All that aside though, it's easy to pick apart everything wrong from behind your keyboard, so PLEASE post a video of knife training you approve of, in the event no one on the net meets your criteria feel free to post video of you showing us how to do it correctly. After all if you note I said "their stuff is always thought provoking" IE: it makes me think and examine the material compared with my own experiences and training and thats all you can really ever expect from a video on the net.

            You do need to realize that the idea to my posting this was to stimulate thought and conversation about the arts on the net, and then you need to step back and realize that some people on the net assert that Karate generates power the same way as Tai Chi.

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            • #7
              It's like dejavu

              The reason the attacker acts this way is because he is acting as a Uke and he is smart enough to know what to do to not get fked up. If he resists or tries to continue moving the desired effect of him getting something broken would happen.

              This is training with a partner so that is not the effect you want. The drill still teaches the defender what to do properly though.

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              • #8
                Nice vids Mr.B...

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                • #9
                  I once had an FMA instructor tell me there's no such thing as a knife fight, just a knife ambush. Those videos you posted Mike and others I've seen have only reinforced this.

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