Karate ain't so bad

[sherwinc]

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Note:
If you cannot beat your opponent within 60seconds or 120seconds, then you are not qualified to fight against 2 or more opponents.

Note:
if you are only one versus 2 opponents (or more)...... if you cannot beat your 1st opponent after 3rounds or 12 rounds of fight then what will your 2nd opponent do - will he wait until you kill your 1st opponent?????

In KungFu:
if you are a good KungFu practitioner, you can defeat your 2 opponents in just approximately 4 minutes...... (2 minutes maximum per opponent)

Note:
In KungFu, you cannot defeat your opponent within 60seconds if your hands attacks have no power, so, in learning KungFu, be sure to give attention to training first before sets of fists or kata.

[sherwinc]

Very true and one of the things that point sparring doesnt take into account. It is a good tool it is just that people often fail to realise those limitations.

Like what Bruce Lee said:

A Karate Punch is like an Iron Bar that goes BANNGGGG!!!

while....

A KungFu Punch is like an Iron Chain attached to an Iron Ball that goes WHANNGGGG!!!!! and it hurts inside...... (note: "and it hurts inside")

[sherwinc]

It's not the number of punches landed but the ones that landed and did damage.

"It's not the number of punches landed but the ones that landed and did damage." This is a good lesson for the Karate to learn first, but they did not even hit the KungFu Practitioner, ratio is 2:12. Karate hit KungFu twice, while KungFu hit Karate 12times. Karate's only chance of winning is thru "TRADING BLOWS" ..... KungFu Punch is more powerful than Karate Punch.

[jubaji]

Note:
If you cannot beat your opponent within 60seconds or 120seconds, then you are not qualified to fight against 2 or more opponents.

Note:
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Note: Your crazy bs routine, while entertaining for a while, is now simply tiresome. Call back when the lithium kicks in.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Very true and one of the things that point sparring doesnt take into account. It is a good tool it is just that people often fail to realise those limitations.

Now this makes me think I have a wrong view of what is point sparring
In WKF karate they go to 3 points, wich can be 6 halfpoints too or a combination of full and half points of course
Every one of those should be a proper technique
Now I know in the States you have matches were they just keep counting and every glove that touches the oponent body in anyway can score

I thought both were pointsparring but the first still goes for quality, be it without heavy contact to the head
But taken your remark, it looks like the first isn't pointsparring as you see it

ITKF has 1 point sparring, you can't accusse them from going for quanttity over quality

[krys]

There's no FMA here (maybe hiding, but in your country - plenty) and there's no Muay Thai here in the philippines but thru your some replies - i have learn some of their info's.

There are fmas in the Philippines..... but the best peoples are usually hiding, although some teach....
Also Muay Thai, I talked the guy who introduced MT to the Philippines Boy Mendoza (Kyokushin-MT champion, Kalis Illustrissimo practitioner,former founding member of the Bakbakan), he wanted to learn fmas from our group....

[sherwinc]

There are fmas in the Philippines..... but the best peoples are usually hiding, although some teach....
Also Muay Thai, I talked the guy who introduced MT to the Philippines Boy Mendoza (Kyokushin-MT champion, Kalis Illustrissimo practitioner,former founding member of the Bakbakan), he wanted to learn fmas from our group....

The only place that i see Muay Thai Curriculum is in the YMCA Tinagan Martial Arts in Iloilo, City Philippines but i cant considered that Muay Thai cause it doesnt look like i saw in Cable Televisions Muay Thai Fights in the Ring..... and besides... Muay Thai here in Iloilo YMCA - they doesnt have that strong shinbone kicking.... their Muay Thai Fighters also learning Shorin Ryu Karate (Black Belt) but even a yellow belt Karate can block this power roundhouse by means of downward block with karate forearm....

as what i heard from MUAYTHAIFIGHTER here in this Forum, he said that you cant block Muay Thai's shinbone by means of forearm block - instead, using your leg to defend against their shinbones.....

and there is no FMA in YMCA Iloilo, they only have MuayThai, ShorinRyuKarate, Boxing, KickBoxing, and WuShu (take note "WuShu") theres no kungfu school here in Iloilo, Philippines. (our kungfu instructor teach us privately) since there are chinese kungfu who knows here but they dont teach and no true kungfu school ever open here here in Iloilo.

[krys]

There is Muay Thai in Manila and if you go there I may be able to tell you where to look... In Cebu city also I think.... Did you also have a look at Yaw Yan?

There is a lot of fmas in Panay.... try to read the book grandmasters of Arnis and you will find Illongo masters.....


By the way real Okinawan karate is not bad, my GF is Okinawaian and I've seen one cousin who practices it....but it is like Kung Fu they hide a lot.... these peoples train very hard (some 6 hrs every day on week ends and also hours in the watter) and they know how to fight. What you see outside Okinawa is export karate not the real thing....

[Nit]

I read and read and re read sherwincs posts and I dont really understand him at all.

let me try and get this straight, kung fu (southern eagle claw or whatever the hell its called) is superiour to karate because:
* you have to lift railway tracks with your fingers
* you have to study hand conditioning for many years before learning any further
* you can punch in 1/10 the time it takes a karate or boxing practitioner (from the 'trading blows' post)
* through advanced 'claw' conditioning your punch resembles an musical iron ball on a chain
* all karate is a derivative of kung fu and therefore can never be superior, even through modification


Berk

[Thai Bri]

I think the word you're looking for is "knob". Haw haw haw!

Hope you're well mate!

[Ketsugo Master]

John Nottingham Viper Street Combat

Has anyone heard of or seen this guys video? please comment


Joe

[Nit]

"knob"
Hope you're well mate!

Like:
Knob of margarine


Yeah am well, learning to break what I'm being taught in the dojo with new eyes. Knife defense has never been so interesting!! My sparring has improved and thanks to having you grapple me to death I feel about 3 times fitter...

[Thai Bri]

Errr, yeah. That's right.

I now know why you're called Nit!

[bustr]

karate and MT

Hey guys. Take a look at these paintings of early MT fighters. These must've been produced before the Thais had access to Savate (France's INDIGENOUS martial art) training.

http://www.usmta.com/Chapasart-1.htm

Enjoy

[Tiger Claw]

It depends on the karate and dojo. I have taken two types of karate and one was very effective and the other was illogical. Right now I am in a tkd system with kickboxing and a little jeet kune do in it (only one instructor does the taekwondo/kickboxing with some jkd and it was tonight and it's my favorite class). It is great for stand up and we are hoping to get jj very soon. That class has no patterns in it. I hate patterns and katas (not because I suck at them I have very nice looking katas/paterns I just find it a waste of time) but no true jkd schools in my area. I also want to be a credible instructor and need to learn these things.