ninjitsu

[Thai Bri]

Haw haw haw!

Anyay me old maties. The offer stands. This is not a "challenge" or anything silly like that. It is an invitation to let you defend against my strikes by punching at my hands.

Don't worry. I will bring some headache tablets for you, and will also get you a taxi home. Or maybe an ambulance.

[silentassassin]

Its not all about the wrist, its also the forearm and upperarm. This is not just some ninjitsu style, this is proven is CQ used by CIA Ops, S.A.S., Navy Seals, and all Other Special Forces. You Have to be HAVE to be Faster and more skilled than the other guy. This is proven skills that work and can cause the fight to end just like that. So Thai sti Even if you don't think its real, Just you your self down that works for your Government that's apart of the Special Forces and ask them. IM not sure what country your in but you have them there. Then ask them to demonstrate it to you. Soon as you even try to Throw a punch these men are ready to counter defend. Even a normal military solider is not trained in this way. So I can see way you cant see it happening.

Yea this all started by someone asking about ninjitsu and someone like Thai sti steps end downing the information read the whole tread.

anyhow if you want to get off your ass and step up to it, Yea you might show me a thing or two. IM not sure how good you are??? But no need to talk about it all day, If you got the money and the Time and you beat me I will Pay you. will sign a contract. You pay me as much as I would be willing to pay you if you beat me... If you really want to try me, I'll fly were ever your at will set up a time and everything. But you got to be willing to sign a contract for the same amount I agree to, and you better not be a Fat Bald Guy. Just think Thai sti you could make a lot of money if you win..Go For it you would most likely bet me anyhow...If you want to do this and you got the money. Private Message me about this issue.

[IPON]

If you really want to try me, I'll fly were ever your at will set up a time and everything. But you got to be willing to sign a contract for the same amount I agree to, and you better not be a Fat Bald Guy. Just think Thai sti you could make a lot of money if you win..Go For it you would most likely bet me anyhow...If you want to do this and you got the money. Private Message me about this issue.

OK Now I am interested!! Thai Bri ..... Silent assassin has called your bluff and I would definately like to broker this deal. I will draft the terms and contracts and a neutral bttle ground.....hmmmmm let's say NYC (umm not becuase it is convienient to me of course)

[Hikage]

OK Now I am interested!! Thai Bri ..... Silent assassin has called your bluff and I would definately like to broker this deal. I will draft the terms and contracts and a neutral bttle ground.....hmmmmm let's say NYC (umm not becuase it is convienient to me of course)

And surely we need at least one witness....

Bri, how do you type with your head so far in the sand? Wake up man, just because something doesn't work out in your head doesn't mean it doesn't work. "Punch, block, kick" isn't the only way.

Whoever made the comment about punches being too fast, it works the other way around. Striking someone in this manner actually slows them down and puts the fight at a much more manageable speed. Furthermore, there are several variations to the strike about which SA is speaking. You can strike to the wrist, to the upper forearm, bicep, outside forearm, outside upper forearm, etc. All this depends on the kind of punch that your man throws at you.

For example, a boxer throws a right jab... instead of blocking it, I step forward 45 deg to the left and I drop a left hammer fist onto his upper forearm, what I call the highpoint and drop my weight slightly. This is really nothing more than a palm block, but with my fist closed. However, the strike sinks into the muscle, tearing at the very fibers which attach to the hand and penetrates to the bone. This strike has 2 immediate reactions
1) The hand opens, releasing anything it was holding.
2) It causes the man to sink in his knees, as your shot was directed down, it directed him down as well.
The pain in his arm is not mind-numbing, but it keeps him from throwing that punch anytime soon and if you are practiced enough, that limb will go numb for up to 30 seconds. As SA stated, some can actually cause a KO with this kind of punch, as all meridians lead back to the brain. For those of you who understand, this shot is aimed at stomach 5.

Bri, I'm really curious to see how you react to this challenge. I have a lot of respect for you, as you are known for keeping the trolls in line, but you have a habit of closing off yourself to that which you don't know, understand, or care to figure out and it could be your undoing.

-Hikage

[jubaji]

For example, a boxer throws a right jab... instead of blocking it, I step forward 45 deg to the left and I drop a left hammer fist onto his upper forearm, what I call the highpoint and drop my weight slightly. This is really nothing more than a palm block, but with my fist closed. However, the strike sinks into the muscle, tearing at the very fibers which attach to the hand and penetrates to the bone. This strike has 2 immediate reactions
1) The hand opens, releasing anything it was holding.
2) It causes the man to sink in his knees, as your shot was directed down, it directed him down as well.
The pain in his arm is not mind-numbing, but it keeps him from throwing that punch anytime soon and if you are practiced enough, that limb will go numb for up to 30 seconds. As SA stated, some can actually cause a KO with this kind of punch, as all meridians lead back to the brain. For those of you who understand, this shot is aimed at stomach 5.

hahhahaaaaahahahaaaahahaahahaaha! Oh, of course!

The no-touch KI attack is more likely than this fantasy!

[darrianation]

kidding about which part?
Just research it or just try it.
In the ring you might get in trouble using punches like those, but in a street fight or a tough man fight you can humiliate your opponent. Now the CIA Training on CIA thing i watched they talked about learning ninjitsu skills in part of their training.

I have been doing martial arts for a very long time and never heard of such non-sense such as not blocking but punch the on coming punch. C'mon man you are telling me you can or an average person can during the heat of battle use such precise timing and laser like targeting to actual do this? Not to mention Accounting for all the variable angles and follow up shots that may and probably will come in rapid succession.

You must be a true movie star Ninja because only in fantasy can this been done to any true measure of consistency.

[Tom Yum]

Its not all about the wrist, its also the forearm and upperarm. This is not just some ninjitsu style, this is proven is CQ used by CIA Ops, S.A.S., Navy Seals, and all Other Special Forces. You Have to be HAVE to be Faster and more skilled than the other guy. This is proven skills that work and can cause the fight to end just like that. So Thai sti Even if you don't think its real, Just you your self down that works for your Government that's apart of the Special Forces and ask them. IM not sure what country your in but you have them there. Then ask them to demonstrate it to you. Soon as you even try to Throw a punch these men are ready to counter defend. Even a normal military solider is not trained in this way. So I can see way you cant see it happening.

Yea this all started by someone asking about ninjitsu and someone like Thai sti steps end downing the information read the whole tread.

anyhow if you want to get off your ass and step up to it, Yea you might show me a thing or two. IM not sure how good you are??? But no need to talk about it all day, If you got the money and the Time and you beat me I will Pay you. will sign a contract. You pay me as much as I would be willing to pay you if you beat me... If you really want to try me, I'll fly were ever your at will set up a time and everything. But you got to be willing to sign a contract for the same amount I agree to, and you better not be a Fat Bald Guy. Just think Thai sti you could make a lot of money if you win..Go For it you would most likely bet me anyhow...If you want to do this and you got the money. Private Message me about this issue.

This is very reminiscent of Ashida Kim and his $10,000 challenge.

[darrianation]

For example, a boxer throws a right jab... instead of blocking it, I step forward 45 deg to the left and I drop a left hammer fist onto his upper forearm, what I call the highpoint and drop my weight slightly. This is really nothing more than a palm block, but with my fist closed. However, the strike sinks into the muscle, tearing at the very fibers which attach to the hand and penetrates to the bone.

-Hikage

I would really like to see you try this against a decent boxer.

There are to many variables to take into account, like what if the boxer changes angles, speed, and height as he jabs. Or is just using that jab as a feint to close distance and distract you so he can take your head off with a follow up cross or overhand.

I also doubt it would work on a consistent level in a sudden and violent attack because oft' times those movements that rely on fine motor skills just simply melt away. Better to rely on movement that is gross motor skills.

[IPON]

This is very reminiscent of Ashida Kim and his $10,000 challenge.

plus my 8% broker fee

[Tom Yum]

plus my 8% broker fee

Ok then. I get to charge for advertising spots. $50 for a 30 second spot on the airwaves, flat fee of $200 per banner (no larger than 16 foot sq), and $25 for a 30 second announcement.

[Thai Bri]

I accept this challenge. Or did I make it? I can't remember! Haw haw haw!

I live in the Manchester area of the UK. No, I'm not flying out to the USA, but you can fly here. I will pick you up at Manchester Airport, and take you to any hotel in the district. I will even socialise with you and be a nice guy!

But then I will throw my strikes and the pair of us will see if you can counter them with your silly ideas. I can arrange for a friend to video it, and post it too. By the way, I have looked at Military systems in some detail, and NONE of the special forces you mention have used this technique.

Lets be clear. This is not some silly fight to the death match. This is nothing that can be construed as an assault in English Law. It is merely checking on your technical claim as regards your block/strike bullshit wotsit.

I have trained with a guy from the forum actually. He is called Nit, but doesn't hang around here much. But why not PM him and ask him whether or not I have the cojonnes for this little deal?

Win or lose, I will not abuse your gesture of coming over. You will not be left injured in a pool of blood somewhere, and we will be friends at the end of it. OK?

Bring it on!!!!!!!!! Haw haw haw!

[Hikage]

I would really like to see you try this against a decent boxer.

There are to many variables to take into account, like what if the boxer changes angles, speed, and height as he jabs. Or is just using that jab as a feint to close distance and distract you so he can take your head off with a follow up cross or overhand.

I also doubt it would work on a consistent level in a sudden and violent attack because oft' times those movements that rely on fine motor skills just simply melt away. Better to rely on movement that is gross motor skills.

What's the difference between this and a palm block? What you don't understand is just that in place of batting a strike away with your open hand, close your fist and do the same movement. Are you saying that you can't block a boxer's punch because of all the angles involved? How long have you been doing this?

The stepping is more of a formality in teaching and explaining this. Each situation needs it's own variation. Instead of stepping out on a quick handed boxer, I might just lean back and deliver my block.

Once again, this is not a wild haymaker into the punch. The guy is running into your fist with his arm, no differently than he would with a block. Try it, close your fist next time you are blocking something and watch what happens. You might even like it.

Personally, I live and die by it as its my bread and butter. I'm not out to impress the orthodox man, I'm out to impress those who are unorthodox street fighters, as they are the ones into whom I am more likely to run. They've seen, and in many cases, defeated the "punch block kick" of other styles. But trust me, if you haven't seen this, they haven't either and they're just as suprised when they encouter it as you would be. Try it. It's easy to practice. Then knock it.

-Hikage

[jubaji]

Personally, I live and die by it as its my bread and butter. I'm not out to impress the orthodox man, I'm out to impress those who are unorthodox street fighters, as they are the ones into whom I am more likely to run. They've seen, and in many cases, defeated the "punch block kick" of other styles. But trust me, if you haven't seen this, they haven't either and they're just as suprised when they encouter it as you would be. Try it. It's easy to practice. Then knock it.

-Aho

Man, you are so full of shit it must be coming out of your ears! Your "bread and butter"! hahahahaaa You smell like you have never been in a fight in your life, let alone with a trained boxer.

Please continue.

[darrianation]

What's the difference between this and a palm block? What you don't understand is just that in place of batting a strike away with your open hand, close your fist and do the same movement. Are you saying that you can't block a boxer's punch because of all the angles involved? How long have you been doing this?

The stepping is more of a formality in teaching and explaining this. Each situation needs it's own variation. Instead of stepping out on a quick handed boxer, I might just lean back and deliver my block.

Once again, this is not a wild haymaker into the punch. The guy is running into your fist with his arm, no differently than he would with a block. Try it, close your fist next time you are blocking something and watch what happens. You might even like it.

Personally, I live and die by it as its my bread and butter. I'm not out to impress the orthodox man, I'm out to impress those who are unorthodox street fighters, as they are the ones into whom I am more likely to run. They've seen, and in many cases, defeated the "punch block kick" of other styles. But trust me, if you haven't seen this, they haven't either and they're just as suprised when they encouter it as you would be. Try it. It's easy to practice. Then knock it.

-Hikage

See now the way you are describing it is different than the way SA described it and now you are just saying it’ simply a palm block. Well in that case it seems to be logical as well as functional same as a parry.

You can also use the forearm instead of the palm to make it a little more painful for the puncher. However punching an incoming punch is a bit out there.

I have participated in ring sports and (boxing and MT) and I know just how hard some of these things can be. And just because there are a few of you out there that can or think you can doesn’t mean the average martial artist can.

[IPON]

Lets be clear. This is not some silly fight to the death match. This is nothing that can be construed as an assault in English Law. It is merely checking on your technical claim as regards your block/strike bullshit wotsit.

HEY THIS IS NOT FAIR!!!!!!!! What about all the hard work Tom Yum and I have put into organizing and promoting this event called "Power Fists in the land of fish 'n Chips". Now that you made a "legal and non death match" I can only charge 1/4 the cost of the orginal ticket price for the event. Very Selfish Bri ...very selfish. Now how will I pay my rent next month