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    The following is an article written by a man who has lived and trained in Japan among some of the most elite martial artists and historians in the era that shaped MA as we know it today. I thought this might shed light on the issue of ninjitsu being discussed on this board. I seriously doubt that anyone familiar with the martial arts community will question this man's credentials or integrity.




    The NINJA PEOPLE by GrandMaster Peter Urban

    There was a time in Japan of the olden days that had originated in China but showed up there over three-hundred years later, a strange group of men and women. They always dressed in black. Such was the nature of their clothing that even their faces and feet were not distinguishable. The softest of black felt cushioned their steps to the sounds that black cats make stalking across thick rugs. They knew many things. Walking in silence and living at night was their way. Friends had they none. Fear and hatred by all had they won from centuries of tales not meek. Theirs was a mystique that few dared to seek. In such a group there were no weak. Reputations of evil traditions of being in league with the demons of power were described by foreign white men devils who called them magicians of Satan and wrote of them as such in terms that have been passed down through the centuries on pages of books that were hidden from view from ordinary people like us.
    These "black knights" of old days, who did not believe in magic themselves but who could perform seemingly magical feats, were known as "Ninja," or "Ninjitsu people." The word (nin) means stealth. The word (jitsu) means abilities. Ergo, the archaic Japanese word Ninjitsu literally translates to (the art of stealth). For some it became a way of life. For others it becomes a religion. They were known as professional assassins by the historians of feudal Japan.
    There were only two types of Ninjas. Those who were known to be Ninjas were pretenders. Those who were Ninjas were never ever known. Real Ninjas were artists of life with the minds of scientists, hands of a surgeon, eyes of a hawk, emotions of a Maco shark and the morals of an ice cube. They kept the company of no one. They could not be recognized by their own kind. They were celibate, never married, not homosexual, fearless, highly educated, never indulged in alcohol, drugs or sinful human pleasures. They trusted only their own sanity.
    A Ninja could never be captured or tortured. They had the power to kill themselves at any time of the day of night and under any contingency. They had beads of poison that could be kept in their mouths for any length of time; only crushing down on them with their teeth would release a poison that was so lethal, painless and swift, that it was reserved for only themselves. They could certainly be killed, but never questioned. It took a Ninja to know a Ninja. It took a Ninja to kill a Ninja. They could be anyone at any time and at any place. They could be any tree in a forest of people. To pursue them would be like attacking a bag of quicksand in the darkness of night. They never solicited business. They were never without money. They were very contented to have many imitators and pretenders who would be killed by the righteous.
    They were more capable of teamwork than any army. They had no superiors or inferiors when they worked together. They could take orders and give orders with no badges of rank, no egos to feed. They had the brains of men with the efficiency of African red army ants. They had the courage and mercy of a squadron of South American killer bees. To incur the attention of a Ninja or society of Ninjas as a potential threat to them was to nakedly bathe in a river of ravenous piranhas.
    The most interesting things that highly objective scholar historians ever recorded about them was that they never attracted attention. They were completely incapable of sadism. They would never assassinate children or pregnant women. If they were hired to do a job, they would always be paid in advance. No matter what the needs of a client would be. If it was a child or a pregnant woman targeted as the assignment, the Ninja or Ninjas would accept the money, guarantee the assignment and then kill the client and keep the money. There was never a body to be found in any such instance. They would always lie to a liar, as well as kill them for the very act of lying to a Ninja. For practice and for a general principle still not comprehensible to the finest minds, they would kill very cruel and evil men or women for free and without being hired to do so. This observation is mind-boggling to everyone.
    Ninjas devoted their childhood to training for mastery in their peculiar skills and thus were highly skilled in the martial arts. Raised utterly without morals, which they referred to as "imaginary restrictions." They were bereft of virtue as we know it or as is commonly defined by all cultures in the world.
    Since they thrived on darkness, their training halls were painted completely black; varying lengths of nails and spikes protruded from the walls. Upon these spikes and stone walls, they practiced jumping, grasping, climbing, and wall-scaling techniques. Acrobatic skills were second nature to them as well as swimming.
    They were superb masters of sword-handling, archery, horsemanship, Jiu-Jitsu, stick fighting, body balancing, and the art of throwing tiny poisoned darts and the small, sharp-cornered coins of that era. The latter was a particularly favorite weapon, for who would believe it possible to put out a man's eye and kill him at a distance of more than fifty feet by throwing a coin the size of a silver dollar? No weapon could ever be found -- just an ordinary coin lying in the street.
    Hundreds of hours were spent practicing walking across creaky wooden floors without making a sound. This was done by unwinding their long, black, felt waistband; rolling it across the floor; carefully, lightly, and quickly darting down its entire length; then rolling it up and repeating the maneuver until the desired distance was crossed. They did everything with their own inimitable magic and called it "ninjitsu." Disappearing was their most astoundingly developed ability.
    Their training, being supremely realistic and scientific, also took into consideration every adverse situation they could imagine. They called their "thing", scientific magic.
    They were the original practitioners of the "art of programming." They were taught from the cradle that nothing was impossible. Not knowing that a thing could not be done, they did it.
    They had many services to sell to the lords and ladies of the great houses of the day. Their specialty being murder and terror. Many provincial lords, in rivalry for one reason or another, often used the Ninja in preference to the expense of an all-out war against an enemy. A Ninjitsu man or woman could sneak past guards, fool alert watchdogs, do the job, and disappear with no traces of ever having been there at all.
    They used black coal dust and chemically produced smoke screens to distort the sight of pursuers. Their visual memory and sense of direction was so exact that, with one swift glance, they could evaluate all means of egress from a building. This enabled them to leap from any second or third story window, knowing in advance that a tree would be underneath to break their fall. Rooftops were nothing but stepping stones to be adroitly traveled upon. Using their uniquely fashioned silken rope and grabbing hooks, they scaled up the highest, most forbidding cliffs and walls.
    A skilled Ninjitsu man could run down a hallway, jump across the entrance area, grasp the eaves to a doorway, and pull himself up and over onto the roof in a matter of seconds. From the roof, where he blended into the night, he was in a perfect position for throwing darts, coins, or circular disks that looked like the blades of a power saw. No wonder everyone was afraid of them. Chasing them was almost certain death, for they would seem to disappear right in front of a pursuer's eyes. The next thing the pursuer felt would be the sting of a poisoned dart in the back of his neck.
    Even when stripped down to nothing but their "fundoshi," or loincloths, they almost always managed to escape without the necessity of having to kill themselves as they always did in a hopeless situation. When the guards led a Ninja out to be executed (a foregone conclusion), he would completely confound his captors by running full tilt toward the seemingly impregnable wall. Just before he did so, he had urinated into his fundoshi. Removing the sopping wet cotton cloth, he ran up the wall as far as he could, letting out a piercing scream and slapping the wet cloth with all his strength against the top of the stone wall. Without stopping his momentum for an instant, he would swing the remaining distance to the top of the wall, using the cloth as a rope, and before the astonished and terrified guards could move, he had disappeared.
    The mystique of these historically legendary oriental professional assassins increased as the centuries went by. Their secrets were handed down from family to family, generation after generation. Ninjas were never the natural children of living parents. Everyone was always an orphan or found baby. They were never recruited. It was always said that a Ninja was not made, they were born to be. Talent and destiny led them to be. A Ninja with family would not be a real one. Real Ninjas were asexual, did not need or desire any normal human ties. There could never be such a thing as a successful undercover Ninja impostor. They could not be fooled by anyone or anything or any situation. Real Ninjas had no ambitions, no greed, no passions, no need for power and recognition. They were honest unto their calling. No honest person can be conned. They desired nothing that the earth had to offer. They could not be bribed. The real ones were psychic and could not be lied to. Most of all there was nothing in life that could disappoint them or influence their thinking. They were just special people of a different ilk; born to be what they would become. Such as the world had its Mozart's, so did the martial arts have its Ninjas.
    All that is known now is that there are a few old martial arts teachers in southern Japan who, for the sake of tradition only, still practice the Ninjitsu training. These old Sensei's occasionally give an exhibition of the dead art at the more important martial arts cultural festivals. They are always looked upon a little fearfully by the younger participants in the exhibitions, for after all, who knows for sure about such matters?
    The portrait of a Ninja that you see in museums is of a very elite looking middle-aged man with a scroll clenched in his mouth; enigmatic looking with piercing eyes. Everyone tries to guess what he is holding in his mouth. I shouldn't tell you the answer to that secret but I will. He is not holding a diploma. He is holding a list of secrets that no person should know. What is that? Never disclose your mistakes, weaknesses or your superiority.

  • #2
    That reads like a cheap novel.

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    • #3
      I never said GrandMaster Urban was a dynamic writer. I said that the man has more insight on this subject than most due to the fact that he's been there, done that.

      I'm sure that convincing you wasn't on the top of his priority list, Thai Bri.
      Maybe we should nominate you the Grandmaster of the internet forum since you seem to think you have the authority to discredit or validate anything on a whim, regardless as to whether the gentleman who wrote the above article had infinitely more knowledge in the martial arts than you'll ever have.

      But its your right to do so.
      Oh well.

      Have fun

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      • #4
        Its not that I discredit on a whim. Its more that I do NOT become convinced on a whim.

        That way I find that I can support my beliefs with rational argument and evidence, and don't have to rely on mythical bullshit and tall stories.

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        • #5
          I must add here...

          This many seem odd, but I actually agree with TB. You must forgive the fact that I've never heard of this guy before, nor do I accept his credibility as you stated that no one could. This can only be crap. As he stated in the article, how could he possibly know what there is to know of the ninja? He would have to be a ninja himself, and would therefore not disclose this information. I'm a pretty die-hard ninja man myself and I don't even buy this crap.

          -Hikage

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          • #6
            What in god's name is that guy talking about??? How could he possibly know all that stuff about ninja? He'd have had to have been a ninja himself, which, as Hikage said, he would not have disclosed the information. And what's this with psychic ability, or letting out a piercing scream???? Ninja trained to be psychic yes, that doesn't mean they couldn't be lied to. Ninja also always kept completely silent on their missions from what I understand.

            And what's this with no marriage? Ninja, I have read from Stephen K. Hayes, often had up to 3 or 4 separate lives involving 3 or 4 separate marriages sometimes. And ninja were supposedly known for their practical jokes, and they loved to have fun with these. For example, this one big battle that involved a 2 feuding Japanese samurai families, was happening because the leader of each family were enemies. yet, when you look at the actual history and the situation itself from an outsider's point of view, you see that really, the 2 leader's were the same guy, and that guy was a ninja, who found it funny to make 2 families war against each other.

            Also, what on earth is this about ninja could not be captured, or killed, except by other ninja??? Ninja and samurai killed each other all throughout the history of Japan. Ninja could be tortured, just as anyone else. As a matter of fact, the samurai used to love to torture ninja. One can develop the mental capabilities to block pain only so much.

            Ninja did not live by the standard morals of the time. They did not do so because they considered it a weakness. But they were not the Borg (emotionless, but always seeking perfection).

            And I seriously doubt they could reproduce each other without sexual drive. Sexual drive would not even have been a weakness for them, I don't think. If you were trained to be a ninja, from birth, I think it would be very easy to have sexual attraction to other ninja in your clan of the opposite sex; you'd have to be pretty damn stupid to let yourself get sexually attracted to people outside the clan (and thus betray your clan perhaps). Ninja who did actually live multiple lives as spies I am sure had sex with all 4 families.

            What that in itself says is that there may be a lot of people who are actually of ninja descent and never even knew it, and never will.

            Also, what is this about unrolling their belt and then scurrying across the wooden floor on it???? Weight is a factor on a creaky wooden surface. What they did most likely was they could balance extremely well on one leg. They thus would stand on one leg and very, very carefully apply pressure to the floor with their other leg. they would keep applying pressure, and eventually, slowly, transfer pressure onto this leg, and then slowly take pressure off of their other supporting leg, and thus advance. that way, if they were applying pressure with their feeling leg to the floor and it started to make a creak, they'd immediately draw back and feel around differently. Ninja practiced that technique for hours.

            And also, this guy contradicts himself. He openly says that ninja have no morals, then he says they would not kill children or babies (!?!). Ninja killed whoever they were paid to kill. You don't make your living as a professional assassin if you are not going to kill certain people. Targeting the children or the women of a particular target would be a perfect way to make that target submit to your wants or whatnot, even. Ninja were not knights or samurai. They had no honor for those particular reasons.

            I know Thai Bri is skeptical about lots of stuff, but I'd have to agree with him here. It's not like this guy is making legit arguments and then Thai Bri is just owning the stuff. The arguments this guy makes are rather pathetic.

            As for ninja, I would think (just my opinion) that they cared and loved each other very much, but they portrayed the image that they were these emotionless assassins to their enemies.

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            • #7
              The fact that you guys honestly said that you didn't know who he was let me know what I was dealing with here. Peter Urban is not some Mom and Pop karate man. The man introduced Goju to America. He's one of the "big" influences of martial arts in America. His teachers were Richard Kim, Gogen Yamaguchi and Mas Oyama...other gentlemen I'm sure you've probably never heard of.

              Not to be disrespectful at all, but if you haven't heard of Peter Urban and his teachers then I'm wasting my time with you. I'm not trying to prove ANYTHING, especially to people who probably get the bulk of their knowledge of the martial art community out of Black Belt magazine.

              You all obviously have computers. You'd all do well to look up some of the names I mentioned and learn something. Broaden your horizons. This feels like we're all boxers, but you guys never heard of Muhammad Ali.

              By the way, the story wasn't meant to "convince " any of you. It was an article from a man who trained and lived among Japan's 3 most elite martial artists, who were privy to information about their homeland, including Ninjitsu, that you'll never be.

              Your loss.

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              • #8
                I have heard of al the guys you mentioned, but it does not matter what this guy's credentials are. You think just because he lived amongst some top martial arts guys that that makes him qualified to talk or be a scholar? The guy probably wrote the stuff because he observed how the ninja wanted him to observe them.

                Also, like I said, this is not magic and a lot of what he said is balogne, and that is fact. If the man wants to write legit martial arts history, he should make stuff that sounds legit. Not sound like he's writing the Zen article on the ninja.

                Furthermore, do not accuse us of getting information from magazines, because I have never relied on martial arts magazines for any historical information on martial arts.

                The only legit martial arts books from actual martial arts guys who "lived and trained" in Japan amongst the top martial artists were written by Don Draeger, who was the first man to truly master Japanese martial arts, and one of the few guys out there who actualy wrote highly detailed martial arts books that read like they're written by an actual scholar, and a book by Stephen K. Hayes, who did train amongst the ninja in Japan, in the ninja's art. And that was back in the 70's when he did that, and even in his book,s, he said he had a lot of misconceptions about ninja, and that was back then. Probably from stuff written by guys like Peter Urban.

                Otherwise, the only actual decent martial arts works I have written have been by other historians.

                John Bluming also lived and trained in Japan for awhile, and he became one of Japan's top karate champs, and judo champs, and Mas Oyama's top student.

                Those guys are the real deal. But for that guy to be as respected as you say and then write an article like that, he's got to be pretty stupid. A good bit of the stuff he says IS contradictory. And a good bit of what he says is BLATANTLY NOT TRUE.

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                • #9
                  I also thing that this article is very dramatized. This is the same type of writing that caused the big ninja boom of the eighties with all the fictional fantasy stories and movies about the ninja that did so much to damage the way the public looked at ninjutsu. Some of the fantasies were based off of legends surrounding the ninja, but they were mostly just legends. It sounds like this guy may be trying to cash in on the black pijama wearing ninja fantasies the children love to read.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Uke
                    His teachers were Richard Kim, Gogen Yamaguchi and Mas Oyama...other gentlemen I'm sure you've probably never heard of... This feels like we're all boxers, but you guys never heard of Muhammad Ali
                    Does that matter?


                    Originally posted by Uke
                    Not to be disrespectful at all, but if you haven't heard of Peter Urban and his teachers then I'm wasting my time with you.
                    Ok, so go waste your time elsewhere.

                    Originally posted by Uke
                    I'm not trying to prove ANYTHING, especially to people who probably get the bulk of their knowledge of the martial art community out of Black Belt magazine.
                    Haven't ever owned a subscription -- never will. Too water down for me. Last one I read was 3 years ago when my co-teacher at Millersville, Scott Sonnon was featured (since you like names so much).

                    Originally posted by Uke
                    You all obviously have computers. You'd all do well to look up some of the names I mentioned and learn something. Broaden your horizons. .
                    So I am to believe what I read online? No thanks. I value books. I'm often ridiculed for believing what others deem as hocus-pocus. But the day that I would post an article like that, find myself dropping names, and discriminating against others meerely because they have not heard of them is the day that I... well I don't know what.. but it's not going to happen. Once again, I'll get my information from known and trusted sources.

                    Originally posted by Uke
                    By the way, the story wasn't meant to "convince " any of you. It was an article from a man who trained and lived among Japan's 3 most elite martial artists, who were privy to information about their homeland, including Ninjitsu, that you'll never be.
                    Interesting. Way to narrow your thinking. Get off your duff, stop searching for the internet holy grail and do some training. I'm not impressed by names, words, or even lists of japanese terms and techniques. I'm impressed by someone who can get on the floor and do something.

                    Originally posted by Uke
                    Your loss.
                    Ok, I lose.

                    -Hikage

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Uke
                      The fact that you guys honestly said that you didn't know who he was let me know what I was dealing with here. Peter Urban is not some Mom and Pop karate man. The man introduced Goju to America. He's one of the "big" influences of martial arts in America. His teachers were Richard Kim, Gogen Yamaguchi and Mas Oyama...other gentlemen I'm sure you've probably never heard of.

                      Not to be disrespectful at all, but if you haven't heard of Peter Urban and his teachers then I'm wasting my time with you. I'm not trying to prove ANYTHING, especially to people who probably get the bulk of their knowledge of the martial art community out of Black Belt magazine.

                      You all obviously have computers. You'd all do well to look up some of the names I mentioned and learn something. Broaden your horizons. This feels like we're all boxers, but you guys never heard of Muhammad Ali.

                      By the way, the story wasn't meant to "convince " any of you. It was an article from a man who trained and lived among Japan's 3 most elite martial artists, who were privy to information about their homeland, including Ninjitsu, that you'll never be.

                      Your loss.
                      Ok, I'll walk away with my tail between my legs now...

                      I'm not part of the popular crowd and don't know nuttin' about martial arts. BTW....

                      kongshou dao yuanlai shi zhonguo de....whoops, there I go into Mandarin again (musta' learned that from black belt mag )

                      Xia yi ci jian ba!! bai bai!

                      Here's my personal photo for all to enjoy!

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                      • #12
                        Ninja, please!

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                        • #13
                          Hmmm, I took some Chinese, need to continue those classes though. I know something on the order of "Wo shi huan zhong guo ren" means "I like to eat chinese people" hahahaha (note I forget the exact pinyin spelling so forgive me if I mispelled something).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Broadsword2004
                            Hmmm, I took some Chinese, need to continue those classes though. I know something on the order of "Wo shi huan zhong guo ren" means "I like to eat chinese people" hahahaha (note I forget the exact pinyin spelling so forgive me if I mispelled something).
                            Take out the word 'to eat' and you are correct, sir...YES...hahahah YOU ARE CORRECT SIR (in an Ed McMahon voice)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Broadsword2004
                              Hmmm, I took some Chinese, need to continue those classes though. I know something on the order of "Wo shi huan zhong guo ren" means "I like to eat chinese people" hahahaha (note I forget the exact pinyin spelling so forgive me if I mispelled something).
                              Chinese is easy to learn, like partial differential equations or playing any musical instrument -- I don't have any common sense though -- don't ask me how I figured out how to replace my cousin's fan belt....but its runnin' smoothley now

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