so,many of you think Aikido is no use for 'real world' app', eh?, hmm

[Thai Bri]

why, what would be purpose that?

It may help to verify your claim.

[BJJ-2/04]

Aikido has nothing in the clinch, unless your version of a "clinch" is one man gently holding another by the wrist.

Only someone who knows little about Aikido would think the whole art is wrist grabs.

[chris davis 200]

https://www.ma-design.biz/shioda_hard_irimi.wmv

Just uploaded a clip of Gozo Shioda to some of my webspace - applying a more realistic Irimi Nage.

Kinda hurts by the look of it.

dont wanna get involved in this but - some aikido is powerful!

Cheers
chris

[HuSanYan]

Only someone who knows little about Aikido would think the whole art is wrist grabs.

hey newbie, so what, maybe everyone doesnt want to know "a lot" about fucking Aikido. Maybe you should build up more than a couple of dozen posts on these boards pal before insulting folks, on this site we track IP's and pay a visit to smucks, right in their own kitchens

[BJJ-2/04]

hey newbie, so what, maybe everyone doesnt want to know "a lot" about fucking Aikido. Maybe you should build up more than a couple of dozen posts on these boards pal before insulting folks, on this site we track IP's and pay a visit to smucks, right in their own kitchens

I'd like a visit. Anytime.

[HuSanYan]

I'd like a visit. Anytime.

the statement of a regular Escort Service Customer

[Thai Bri]

Don't get him in a clinch. He will flow out of it.......

[darrianation]

hi steve

I learned in most of these post that are on here that you need not take what is being said to heart. I've found that even if you know what your talking about, especially if you have used your art for many street fights with grait success most of the people on here don't have the understanding them selfs. I personally think that Akido is a verry efective art for the street. The problem with most people is that they want a bb with in two years and they don't want to earn it. Akido like all Martial Arts if learned properly takes time. People now a days want the status to call them selfs a bb rather then know how to properly use and aply there art what ever it might be. It's sad that we have taken the knowledge that is offered to us and not appreciate it.

Oh Grait assumption king, your words are such wisdom to our ears.

Seriously bro' You have used Aikido in combat? Why do you make such assumptions about our knowledge and experiences? You speak as if a black belt is something to be desired and covenanted. This shows your true lack of understanding of those who know true combat.

[straitup]

hi there
You must have miss understood my post so my oppinion to you is reread it slowwwwer..

[Serrada]

hey newbie, so what, maybe everyone doesnt want to know "a lot" about fucking Aikido. Maybe you should build up more than a couple of dozen posts on these boards pal before insulting folks, on this site we track IP's and pay a visit to smucks, right in their own kitchens

HuSanYan, I could use another bitch in the kitchen.


Seriously, HuSanYan don’t you think your tread is a little harsh? I’d like to learn more about akido. If you don’t, why are you here? IMHO quantity of post just makes you less credible.

Many police officers use aikido and swear by it.

[Aikiguy]

Only someone who knows little about Aikido would think the whole art is wrist grabs.

The whole art may not be wrist grabs, but many of the attacks are of the "fully committed, from a distance" variety .... wrist grabs, lapel grabs, and strikes from a distance. At least to start. I hadn't seen much of anything resembling counters to fast punches, takedowns, or ground work ... in fact, I was told that once you hit the gorund, it was "all over". Possibly true, but that *can't* be the only answer aikido has to that situation.

Honestly, "wrist grabs" seem to be the first impression aikido leaves on people because they are pretty common.

[chris davis 200]

... in fact, I was told that once you hit the gorund, it was "all over".

I know you should account for ground work etc ........ but just had to say check out that Shioda clip - sure seemed 'all over' for that uke when he hit the ground!

haw haw haw

[darrianation]

The whole art may not be wrist grabs, but many of the attacks are of the "fully committed, from a distance" variety .... wrist grabs, lapel grabs, and strikes from a distance. At least to start. I hadn't seen much of anything resembling counters to fast punches, takedowns, or ground work ... in fact, I was told that once you hit the gorund, it was "all over". Possibly true, but that *can't* be the only answer aikido has to that situation.

Honestly, "wrist grabs" seem to be the first impression aikido leaves on people because they are pretty common.

Remember those so called police officers are learning selected techniques that specifically apply to their specialized work. These selected techniques are mainly compliant controls that professionals need to know. They do not spend years learning Aikido. Aikido as with most MAs have some good functional stuff in it, however like many MAs it has stuff that isn’t so functional.

The average Joe non-professional doesn’t need to worry about controlling someone in compliant holds. In Self-defense our job is to cause as much damage as possible as fast as we can. The cops need to control subjects with as little damage as they possibly can. There is a difference.

[chris davis 200]

In Self-defense our job is to cause as much damage as possible as fast as we can.

Hmmm - dont really agree with this view - in some circumstances this may be correct - but by no means all!!!

Every situation requires a different responce. If some drunk teenager walks up bearly able to stand and puts his hand on you while muttering something - stamping him into the dirt with as much damage as you are able to do would be kinda off the mark. a simple shove and he would fall on his ass!

If you dont train for differing levels of agression then you will program yourself to act with maximum force even if the situation doesnt require it. This is one problem i see with many self defence based arts - they see things as black and white - 'switched on or switched off' - they rarely account for the grey shades of protecting your personal space.

If you approach self defence with the maximum damage attitude you will be in prison in no time.

Reasonable force anyone .......

chris

[HuSanYan]

HuSanYan, I could use another bitch in the kitchen.
Seriously, HuSanYan don’t you think your tread is a little harsh? I’d like to learn more about akido. If you don’t, why are you here? IMHO quantity of post just makes you less credible.

Many police officers use aikido and swear by it.

yes I was a bit harsh and apologise to you Serrada for this (slight bad mood at the time).

I think you are right and I know that there are several different ryuha of Aikido some of which are very combat orientated and highly effective, after all Aikido fully derives from JJJ as far as I recall.

Once again, apologies for slamming in like that, Serrada.